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Jade Rose
January 16th, 2005, 10:19 PM
I'm not sure how many of the rest of you when you read the books came to the conclusion that Harry was the first Necroscope. I admit that I always thought he was. However I'm not on my second read through and I just came across an interesting tidbit while Thibor and Dragosani where talking, that makes me wonder.
As for speaking to the dead: that is something else entirely. Very few men have ever mastered that for a skill! - Necroscope, Page 166.
It just makes me wonder that, if Harry wasn't the first, then what became of the others? Why is it that if there were others they couldn't sense him and communicate with him to help him understand his powers more rather than letting him find out all on his own? Why aren't there more Necroscopes out there, all Harry's children picked up a bit of the talent (though in Nestor's case the wrong bit) so shouldn't there, in theory, be more populating the planet?
Just some ideas and things to ponder. I realize these are questions that will likely never be answered, but now that they are there I just figured I'd share. See if anyone else wonders about it, or even caught it for that matter.

Nathan
January 17th, 2005, 12:09 AM
I think Harry was the first.

There were obviously several throughout even Necroscope history who had something, but not true necroscopes like Harry.

Harry's Ma, for instance. She had something, but not quite what Harry had. Szgany gypsies throughtout time immemorial claimed something of "the touch. And some of those people did aid Harry in his understanding of deadspeak...

That's the way I see it anyway...

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Helmet Head
January 17th, 2005, 10:14 PM
Plus Harry's talent was brought on by freak circumstances.
The way I see it is that Harry already had some of his mothers clairvoyancey but nowhere near as powerful as it became.
But her subsequent murder caused her to reach out to him mentally, even as she crossed the threshold from this world to the next, all her thoughts were bent on him.
And I believe it was this that amplified his talent.

Deanmented
January 19th, 2005, 09:44 AM
I agree Helm his Ma was trying to make contact because she was worried about how he would make out in life and this triggered something

skinters
January 19th, 2005, 04:44 PM
i think as far as harry being the first necroscope,i think he was the first to utilise the talent to a higher degree than those before him .

also i think its something passed down through generations as his mother had the beginnings of the talent ,and harrys own children were to take the talent even higher, irrespective of any past curcumstances

[ January 19, 2005, 08:00 AM: Message edited by: skinters ]

Necro
January 20th, 2005, 09:32 AM
Maybe thats what all those voices in my head are.... Maybe the doctors were wrong.... Heh

Jade Rose
January 22nd, 2005, 02:16 AM
I was just throwing it out there as an idea of something to contemplate but, hey, getting answers and feedback is great! Just because I read it today and it pertains to this thread, Nate called it about his mom having something. It didn't say about how Harry got more, but I guess the idea of his mother calling out to him could have triggered it. Anyway textual support for Nate calling it:
" 'Where do you think you got your talent from in the first place, Harry Keogh, if not from me? I was talking to the dead long before you came along! Oh, not as well as you do it, no, but well enough..." Necroscope Pg. 337

nikolas sheadson
June 5th, 2005, 07:03 AM
its stated in one of the books (escapes my mempry right now) that harry believed he came about his powers by a one in a billion sequence of events. and he was the only necroscop that we know of though others certinaly had the ability. johny found could speak to the dead but because his mind was twisted he chose to torment them insted.

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Kalixt Shawxo
July 15th, 2005, 04:36 AM
Hi, New guy chiming in here.... smile.gif

Harry was indeed the first NECROSCOPE, what I think a few are referring to with the references to the pastlike Jade pointed out:
"As for speaking to the dead: that is something else entirely. Very few men have ever mastered that for a skill! - Necroscope, Page 166."

That I think refers more to the Necromancy was that was known of, where men (vampires, etc) did indeed "talk" to the dead, it was a forced and torturous conversation. Not a willing pleasurable act as it was with Harry, and subsequently Nathan.

Harry's Mother may have indeed had been able to gather something of a similar feel for the dead, but I don't think we ever saw enough to believe that she was in the same realm of power or use of that power as Harry had.

Kalixt Shawxo

Adam Bigge
July 31st, 2005, 06:49 AM
Don't forgt folks,

Harry has been and will be over and over again in millions of different universes. In the words of the angel "nothing is wasted" I think that if there ever was a previous necroscope it would go to reason that upon his death he would have been dispersed as Harry was in order to keep the talent alive and maintain a balance.

Tonka
August 3rd, 2005, 03:03 AM
Yes Harry was the 1st... if he wasn't then the dead would remember the others wouldn't they? but it was Harry and his "light" that bought the dead together in the 1st place.

The simple fact that Harry was the one that bought the dead together directly proves that he was the 1st.