Necroscope: The Movie!

[Goth Girl]

We wish...!

OK, so I know this topic has been visited more than once in the past, but with new actors, directors etc on the movie scene, as well as more members of the Message Board around, I thought it could stand to be discussed again!

So, here we go... we're the Hollywood bigwigs about to embark on a major project for Necroscope... for arguments sake we're gonna make all 13 books into a series of films!

Who are we gonna cast? Who's gonna direct? Where should it be shot? What level of animation do we want?

Ideas folks...!

My first idea... Vin Diesel as Turkur Tzunov. OK, so it's a blatant case of self interest, as he'd have to spend many an hour on my casting couch first, but he'd definitely fit the part... any part... alright, so I want him in the film! Like any of you guys haven't got preferences for Lady Karen!!

For anyone who wants to see what has gone before, here's just one of the earlier discussions: Necroscope Movie (http://www.brianlumley.com/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=4;t=000065)

[ October 29, 2002, 07:31 AM: Message edited by: Goth Girl ]

[Exsanguinator]

Just got Evil Dead on DVD - would love to see The Chin, Bruce Campbell, as - well, anyone!

Groovy...

[topol_sheap]

he'd make a wicked wamphyri! heh heh

[Silver]

Maybe the guy who played Wolverine in the Xmen film could be Jazz? I would love to have seen Brandon Lee in there somewhere, maybe as Jake Cutter - it is such a shame that he's dead.

Also I don't know if any of you have seen the film Razor Blade Smile but the lady who plays the lead in that would make an excellent Wratha!

And finally, if anyone has seen Dracula 2001, the bloke who plays Dracula would make a great Malinari - as you probably guessed by now I'm not too good with names!

[Exsanguinator]

Hugh Jackman as Jazz? Now there's an idea...

I agree it's a shame that certain actors are dead who'd be ideal for roles in the Nec movie - No-one will change my mind that Jeremy Brett would have been as perfect for Dragosani as he was for Holmes...

[topol_sheap]

We need Sean Connery.... how about as the minister responsible... he'd probably be an ex-spy, so Sheeeooorrrrn would be a great asset:) Jamesh, Jamesh B-yond

[Llamedos]

Dead actors in a Necroscope movie....lol.

Was it accidental the wording?

[Goth Girl]

I don't think an actor being dead should exclude him from our movie! I think Brandon Lee is essential for the film! Yul Brynner too.

And having seen Razor Blade Smile too (which wasn't as dreadful as I thought it might be!), the 'actress' who plays Lilith Silver, Eileen Daly (total Goth diva!) would make a perfect vamp.

[Goth Girl]

Well, I did promise myself that I'd try not to make any mean comments, but...

... the Anna Nicole Smith show hit the UK for the first time last night... does anyone agree that she'd make a good gas beast? ;) Or maybe Zindevar, as she's a bit hefty.

I think Dawn French (UK comedienne) would also make a great Zindevar!

[topol_sheap]

My fellow brits might kill me for this, but I have an actor in mind for our Mr Keogh. How about (I know he's not english) the fine actor Ed Norton? I think he'd be great in that role.

[Exsanguinator]

Gotta disagree with you there Tom - nothing to do with his nationality though... Everything I've seen him in he's always appeared a little too - what's the word - smug.

I haven't seen the actor that would fit the role (for me anyway), would probably have to go with some unknown, someone who could pull off the innocence...

Then again he wouldn't have a big role - a few scenes and the rest would be blue-screen work, poor kid! I think more essential casting is finding the right person for Alec Kyle...

[ November 04, 2002, 05:56 AM: Message edited by: Exsanguinator ]

[Nathan]

GAS BEAST! That is a good one! LMAO! :D

Harry'd be played well by one of the colors of Reservoire Dogs (Mr. Orange?), the young one who's gut-shot. He's also the male robber (with HunnyBunny) at the diner in Pulp Fiction.

Alec Kyle...? James Bond?

:D

[topol_sheap]

You want Tim Roth to play Harry??? no, he's too smug, have you seen him in Pulp Fiction???

(I had to say that as someone doused my idea in petroleum and set light to it....Pybob, you're a got smile.gif )

[The Bloody Lady]

i still think i got the perfect guy for harry but can't find his bloody name anywhere.!!!!!!!!!! all they'd have to do would be to dye his hair slightly more brown and bang,...the perfect soulful eyes..........he was in one episode of *a touch of frost* with david jason and now i can't findhim anymore, i'm tempted to say he's the one in *Game On* (the blonde one) but i'm not entirely sure

allllllllllso, the guy that Lady Karen was going to send thru the gate.......Corlis.......i got one for him too, as by now u guys should realise i'm crap at names but the baddie guy in Blade II, the one that blade puts this thing in his head......very cool,. mean, ugly character.....

ok, that was my two penneth

:D

[topol_sheap]

do you mean the guy from Bros?

[The Bloody Lady]

noooooooooo.........i know who luke goss is as a former brossette..........

one of the vampires, not the super vamps, bald guy, ugly son of a .......-nicks blades sword, then gets it goooooooooood...or bad which ever way u see it

[Silver]

Scarlet,

I know the man you mean, I don't know his name but he was also in Alien Resurection if that helps anyone else identify him. He was part of the gang that boarded the ship.

[topol_sheap]

now i have Ron Perlman in my head... I saw blade 2 as well, just can't remember it....

[The Bloody Lady]

Tops, that might be his name but i just can't remember

Silver, yes! ur right, hes always a baddie and ugly as hell!!!

I think also for Faethors wife, Marilena, Madeleine Stowe would be good...big brown eyes and all that...

[topol_sheap]

NO NO NO smile.gif once again I have to stop people being mad, how about Salma Hyak (spell it for me would you) or that other woman who looks the same (Peneloper Crutz or something).... They could both pass as gypsies as far as I am concerned!

Tops

[Nathan]

Yeeeeaaahhhh...!!!

Penelope Cruise would be awesome. Wratha or Ursula Torspawn...? I think Wratha, because she has an outfit or two that expose her breasts. Not that I'd be lookin' or anything, but you know, for all the other guys! :D

:D

[Exsanguinator]

I'd like to see a young Audrey Hepburn and Diana Rig in there - don't care who as, just want to see em! tongue.gif

[The Bloody Lady]

Whats wrong with Madeleine Stowe???????

[topol_sheap]

I dunno, I just wanted to shoot it down!!!! Seriously I can only remember her in 12 monkeys, thinking about that, I am sure Brad pit as the character from that film would fit in some how....

ON the subject of poeple who would be good, how about Oliver Reed as an old Lardis Lidesci? That would be cool even though he's quite dead :(

[Goth Girl]

Salma Hyak I can picture as Misha... dark swishy hair, dark eyes...

I don't know why, but when the name Ron Perlman is mentioned, I always think of Ron Jeremy... I'm sure they look nothing alike, but I just get the names confused. Can't think of any part that Ron Jeremy could play in our film (ignoring the obvious joke about his part...!), although he is ugly enough to be a Wamphyri Lord.

[SpOOkshow]

This topic can never fail to bring me out of Lurksville smile.gif

The thought of a Necroscope movie still fills me with abject horror. (Weird - is the thought of the film's actual existence more terrifying than the film itself?) To me, maybe!

Then Tops flies in and suggests Oliver Reed as Lardis. Fantastic suggestion. I can almost see it now - although in my head, Lardis has always been the spitting image of one of my mate's dad.

As for Salma Hayek? If there was to be a movie, then we need to find a part for her!

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[topol_sheap]

I thought of someone else we have to have no matter what.

BRUCE CAMPBELL

I know he can do wamphyri - just take a look at the chin scene in Army Of Darkness (AKA Bruce Campbell Vs the Evil Dead - my personal favourite title), if his chin wasn't made for this, then no chin was.

On a more serious note, how about Bruce Campbell playing absolutely any male character, he might ham it up a bit, but there surely needs to be an element of comedy in there... If not for you, then certainly for me!

[topol_sheap]

sorry Pybob.... skimmed through and thought your Bruce Campbell post was elsewhere... doh... but you get my point?

how about the boy from the 6th sense as a young dragosani???? "I feel dead people" :mad: :mad:

[Silver]

No Tops, sorry mate but the boy from 6th sense would play young Harry, not Dragosani.

He just looks too inocent!

[topol_sheap]

yeah but we can bastardise what he says in the sixth sense in a real nasty way...

I do however see your point (foolish me). damn you smile.gif heh heh.... I damn people too much round here...

[The Bloody Lady]

Yul Brynner as Max Batu....

Letitia Dean as Devetaki....lol!

I think Daniel whatshisname...happy potter dude, without specs for young harry, his eyes are bluer than haley joel osment....and no offence but hes got a slightly more english accent....*waiting for blast from US counterparts*

:eek:

[Goth Girl]

If Letitia Dean is to be Devetaki, then in keeping with the spirit of things, she needs to have half of her face flayed off... volunteers, form an orderly queue behind me!

And Christopher Lee as Maglore the Mage

[topol_sheap]

can't Mr Lee play all the wamphyri males? heh heh

oh and how about the guy who played Rumploe of the baily as Keenan Gormley?

[Silver]

Nice one GG, Christoper Lee - good choice!

[Exsanguinator]

As long as we're revivifying the thespian types of the Great Majority, Wouldn't it be nice to see Peter Cushing (oooh, wasn't he marvelous as Doc Who *gag*) playing a Wamphyri - opposite a mortal Chris Lee?

Or is it just me who likes perverting the classics?

[Lady Rissa]

I would love to see Christopher Walken as a Wamphyri. He is just so good at embodying evil.

[Canker]

Did anyone see the movie "The Time Machine" that came out within the last two years? :rolleyes:
Terrible movie in my opinion. Never could live up to the original that's for sure, but the actor that played the futuristic villian...... the leader or controller of the Morlocks....I think his name is Jeremy Irons?... I think he'd be a great Wamphryi! :D

[ November 27, 2002, 09:33 AM: Message edited by: Canker ]

[Lady Karen]

I just had to add in this one i havent laughed so much in ages at the suggestions (think hubby thought i was going mad),
Actors hmm i just cant think of any living ,but thats not a bad thing lol.
A movie addaption would be cool but are minds images are more powerful than any film or actors as far as the books go for me.
Think we should have Brian in the film somewhere though hehehehehehehe :D

[Tchernobog]

How about Steve Buscemi for the role of Paxton (Deadspawn)? Or perhaps that guy with the fez from The Mummy.

[Jade Rose]

I'm with the Bloody lady in saying the Daniel Radcliffe(The Harry Potter kid) get's thown in there somewhere. I honestly can say I didn't think of putting him as young Harry though it could work. It could aslo be very interesting to make him a young Dragosani just to bother people. Or my thought was to put him as someone who gets killed off.I'm not sure why, but that was my thought. Also for a possible Jazz, maybe Pierce Brosnan (he plays Bond for Goldeneye and a few others that I haven't actually seen yet. He's obviously already got the spy thing down except this time he'd be the spy who gets caught rather than the one who gets off clean.

[FrostD]

Well, Putting Selma Hyeck in the movie sounds good, considering she may be the most attractive woman in hollywood.

Have you guys thought of a roll for Jason Statham? I figgure one of two parts for him. The bestest Precog ever, Ian (He could totally pull off the depressing feeling of knowing the future), or any Thrall with some lines. His characters are always following orders, so why mess with a good thing?

[Deanmented]

I think Mr. Lumley himself would be perfect for the part of the minister responcible and Rissa Christopher Walken would be perfect for a Wamphyri he does evil very well and also does excellant psycotic outburst

[Subliminal]

Johny Dep as Harry Keogh? He would have to gain an accent but thats what makes a good actor am I right?

[WampyrLord]

I may upset a few people here but I have the name of the actor who just has to play Alec Kyle. He's already in 2 of my favourite films - Dog Soldiers and Event Horizon.
I can't see anyone else playing this role :-

Sean Perwtee.

[WampyrLord]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh................I just thought of one actor who would be even more brilliant at playing Alec Kyle. Probably too type cast as his last role involved him having weird goings on in his head. Who am I talking about - Ben Browder.

[WampyrLord]

I have also have a good one for the Kill Glance brothers (? It's been a while since I read the books !!). Well, I have been watching American Chopper on the discovery channel a lot lately so who better to play the brothers other than Paulie and Mikey Teutel (?) and their father would be a wicked...father !! (the one stuck down the pit if my memory serves me correctly).

[ February 15, 2005, 02:33 AM: Message edited by: WampyrLord ]

[Jade Rose]

I'm not sure how well they'd really bull it of. While perfectly interesting on their show, from what I've seen watching the holiday marathons, they also tend toward laziness, do they not. Mikey tends to come off as a bit too interested in being the comedian I think to pull a serious acting gig. But that could just be me seeing selected things during the holiday marathons and not being a religious watcher I could have a skewed oppinion. Anyways to each his own.

[WampyrLord]

The brothers bit was a bit of light hearted imagining !!

[skinters]

to be honest my heart says ,yeah make a necroscope film ,but my head is saying i just hope it dont turn out like so many book to films that have gone wrong in the past and cant really see any director script music score that will do the fantastic story brian has created any justice at all....i fear the worse

ill put this reply to all the of the necro film threads ,sorry i sound so negetive ,jus my thoughts

[ February 19, 2005, 08:35 PM: Message edited by: skinters ]

[Azazel005]

I think conceptually it would work quite well, there isn't a lot of "events", and while long the book isn't really faced paced. In fact I think the whole 5 books could be made quite neatly into a trilogy (basically ignoring Bodescu and Janos).

[Exsanguinator]

Interesting idea - if that's going to work you'll need to integrate parts of their story in with other foes...

SPOILERS FOLLOW

Yulian illustrated the vampire's tenacity even without guidance as well as providing a direct threat to Harry, his kith & kin... Janos is harder to excise, in my opinion anyway - at the progression in the novels he appears he presents almost a new style of vampire, one more open, less hidden, and one who presented a literary dichotomy as Dragosani did before. Janos was a Necroscope too, and a Lazarus character who was a necessary couterpoint to Harry's burgeoning Messiah complex and an important stage on Harry's path to corruption...

I'd say neither are as easy to drop than Tom Bomberdil (sp?) was for Peter Jackson but I do see a need to trim, there are passages and sequences that work well on a page but to realise them in toto on screen runs a serious danger of dragging...

[ April 15, 2005, 05:14 AM: Message edited by: Exsanguinator ]

[Azazel005]

I'd agree with a lot of that Exsanguinator, particular the point of Janos and how he reflects on and furthers Harry's developent as a character (I suppose to suggest he serves a direct counterpoint may be stretching it for me, but nevertheless). I think Dragosani could have served most of Yulian's violent acts, thus also providing a longer more action filled climax.

Janos is harder to drop for sure though, I suppose one would have to argue could Harry been have developed that far without him as a contrasting enemy? Hard to say, but I don't think there is really enough in "Deadspeak" to fashion a full film from and even so and would decidely end in a cliffhanger and I am not a fan of that kind of ending...

The hardest thing for me would be how to implement, Harry Junior's development and Harry Senior's possessing of Alec Kyle, without rushing those events and plugging them in inappropriately, but what do they pay these hollywood writers for anyway surely the can figure it out [ tongue.gif ]

[Helmet Head]

In my humble opinion I think they should just make the film from the first book and try and make as a good a film as they can from the source material...

If it's any good and actually acheives some commercial success then they will probably look at doing Wamphyri.

I don't see any point in trying to cram as much as you can into the 1 film, even if some of the stuff from the other books is good it would just overfil it and you'd end up with something you don't recognise as Necroscope, or at best a mish mash of five books and I personally would see that as the worst kind of butchery.

I once tried to stuff as much as I could of all the good stuff at a friends party, and I ended up just being violently ill...

[ April 18, 2005, 03:54 AM: Message edited by: The Helm ]

[Exsanguinator]

If I was in charge (I still haven't figured out why I'm not but I guess the letter got lost in the post! tongue.gif ) I'd start with an expositional TV series about an secret arm of the British Government - it would be set 10-15 years before the first movie and over the course of the series you would learn about a boy in the north-east with burgeoning abilities. The series would be about the exploits of E-Branch itself, adventures against their Soviet enemies, work with police forces acreoss the globe, battling corruption and bean counters from above... After the series people would then be familiar with the concent of E-Branch, Harry to a certain degree and some of the international machinations going on so we can crack straight on with a rip-roaring blood and thunder adventure horror movie... And because we've already had a look at Harry in the series we don't have to complicate things for the less literate movie audiences by having flash-backs all the time...

I know this doesn't necessarily fit the established timeline but I'm just thinking of ways to make it work for a bigger audience whilst retaining the core joys of the saga...

[barno]

Firstly, Hi guys! Long-time fan of Brian's work, first time to thse forums.

I've given this topic a lot of thought over the years. If I was in charge, here's a few I'd target for a few key vampire characters and a few thoughts on each.

Thibor - needs to be a big man. Scary-looking, broad-shouldered. Ron Perlman (Hellboy/Blade 2) is somewhat close to how I imagine him.

Faethor - Needs to be smooth when he wants to, and be able to turn into creeping death in an instant. Gary Oldman would be great in this role.

Wratha - Dark, sexy, fiery. Salma Hayek or Angelina Jolie would be obvious choices although I'm sure there's more possibilities.

I'd also love to see Benicio Del Toro play a vampire. Unsure who at this stage.

As mentioned earlier Jude Law would make a good older Keogh, but I'm thinking maybe a little too good looking and suave for the role. Someone like Joaquin Phoenix might be an option (accent permitting).

Johnny Depp as Dragosani??? Slight effeminate, compelling. With help of a bit of CGI could be frightening too.

I wish I could come up with more English actors, but struggling at this stage. Requires more pondering.

[TheGardenGnome]

Frankly when I heard about the film I got wicked excited. I am abit hesitent like the others I will admit. I know there will have to be alot of chopping up especialy during Harry's child years so the movey can progress. However, I am completly optomistic. And as I read in another thread, Go for the "R" rating. The Film industry has been catering to the "PG-13" rating to attract the teenie boppers and few of them could appretiate a story of this caliber as well as adults.
This isn't "Spider-man" nor "LOTR" This is a tramatic story with horrific beings bent on lustful killing.
One side note: Stay away from cgi creatures as much as possible. Stick the Latex makeup and prostetics. The more real it looks, the better. Unless the movie company is willing to shell out the dough to get Industiral Light and Magic to work on the CGI, it'll look more like something from Pixar.

PS: Edward Norton for Harry. heh

[Adam Bigge]

Hi all!! Newbie here. I think that they should pull some old talent in to fill in some vital roles......Patrick Stewart anyone! He would make a great Turkur Zonov.

On a side note, I agree that the movie should be only about the first book. And they should take their time in telling the story. If you try to cram too much into too short a movie you just confuse the people who havn't read the book. Does anyone remember the original "Dune"? I LOVED it. None of my friends got it because they had no clue what was going on. They didn't read the books. I don't want "Necroscope" to go down that road. Do the first movie really well and limit it to a single book. Then after you hook your audience you can start moving a little faster with your story.

[ July 26, 2005, 08:26 PM: Message edited by: Adam Bigge ]

[Dave Black]

Hi Adam, Im a newbie too and slowly finding my way round the site, have a look at the Mass debate in the Lumley discussions / short stories section, we're blathering on about the film in more detail there.
I agree about Dune by the way, never read the book, watched the film and thought what the xxxx ?

[SBWolf]

Well here goes, 1st post - I stumbled across the forum as I was mulling the idea of writing a Necroscope screenplay over in my head and wondered whether there was anything in the pipeline already planned. Looking at this site it would seem there is.

Now I don't want to upset anybody, here but I've come to the conclusion that this is an extremely hard book to turn into both an interesting and accurate screen adaptation. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the books and would love to see a really good adaptation on the big screen but I just don't think that it will happen, or if it does, then it will probably dissapoint both fans and Brian alike.

There are a couple of major problems that I can forsee:

1. The Budget.

Now a lot of names have been bantered around the forums regarding the cast, names such as Johnny Depp, Keanu Reaves and a million other Hollywood stars. Apart from the fact that the book is set in the UK and Europe and as such, most of these actors really wouldn't be suitable, they also cost a lot of money. Hollywood is extremely unlikely to set aside a huge budget for the film as it's quite a select audience that is aware of Brians work and it's horror (a genre that is usually shot on a tight budget anyway). As such I suspect that if there are any major actors they will only go to the parts of Harry(Adult), Alec and Boris. There will also have to be a large amount of CGI, prosthetics and modelwork and this is where the majority of the budget should go because if it ends up looking like 'Van Helsing' then they might as well not bother.

2. The Screenplay

As stated, I've decided that its a tough one.
If you just use book one then as a film it will feel very slow paced, If you use the first 2 books then the Bodescu affair will feel like an anti-climax to the Dragosani confrontation. So do you include it still or do you chop it from the film? This is one of many conundrums that whoever writes the script will face.
What people love in a book doesn't always work well on screen. I can see Young Harry being almost a non-entity in the film as a few selected flashback sequences as cinema goers will be bored if not. Like I say its not any easy one - the chronology will most definately be all over the show and that may upset a lot of fans as in order to appeal to a wider demograph the book and story would have to be severely changed. I can even forsee the possibility that the switch to Alec's body never takes place, the reason being that most audiences will either not understand the concept or just wont like it. At this point the fans cry out who cares if they like or understand it, the answer unfortunately is, the producer cares, it's his money and without getting as wide an audience as possible he won't make any back.

Having said all of that, I really hope that the film gets made, and gets made well.

For my own list of Necroscope job vacancies I suggest the following.
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Director - Neil Marshall
Music - Hans Zimmer - Original Score
Harry Keogh - James Purefoy or Jonathan Rhys Meyers
Dragosani - Konstantin Khabensky or Gary Oldman.
Alec Kyle - Sean Pertwee
Brenda - Kelly Macdonald
Gormley - John Nettles
Thibor - Viktor Verzhbitsky

Well thats about it for my post - thx for reading and remember that 'the future is a devious thing' so maybe it'll all work out in the end smile.gif

[Silver]

Welcome SBWolf, why don't you pop over to the Gate and introduce yourself.

Some very valid points there, but I don't see why people wouldn't like Harry changing bodies, not understanding it is one thing, a very valid point but if they've come to see a horror/sci-fi film what kind of thing do they expect?

No-body really expects that any of the big names that have been suggested will actually be in it, at least I don't, it's more like who'd you like to see in it if they could all do convincing English/European voices!

John Nettles as Gormley could work, but not sure of Sean Pertwee as Alec Kyle!

[Lord Scorpio]

I don't see any big names playing Harry unless the story is changed in the second book. If the movie really takes off, the original Harry won't be in any movies beyond the second which could mean lots of lost $$$. It would be hard to find someone willing to give up that potential I think. So if Harry is a big name then you could probably bet the story would be changed.

I am not so sure that movie goers would be all that accepting of seeing a different Harry in the other movies. It is a cool concept and works well in the books because as a reader you still get the overall feel of Harry. And for me I still "see" Harry as Harry. But in a movie it is going to be very obvious as you are seeing a different actor. And can the actor still pull off convincing people it is the same mind in that body when it really isn't? Plus in movies people see the face of the hereo and the face is a big part of the market of the movie. It is just different and does not work all that well with the standard commerce of the industry.

[Chris Banks]

Agreed. How about using non identical twins in the role for Harry? Would it work. Possibly - and they don't have to be "Hollywood Superstars" either. They do say that twins have a telepathic link somewhere, don't they? So long as they could act............ :cool:

[Silver]

Nice idea Chris, I agree that if they did do the body swap thing it would have to be a fantastic actor to play the two different characters convincingly.

[Amarfa]

Jean Grey from the recent XMen should play Devetaki.
Anna Nicole Smith has my vote for the Gas Beast, and Salma Hayek I think should actually play Nana Kiklu. She has the guts and grit for Nana. Brad Pitt should play Nathan, and I should play Misha :cool: But seriously, Brad pitt should play nathan, and samuel l jackson should be in it somewhere...M&(^* F(&)&(*^(^^% Snakes!

[ June 09, 2006, 02:08 AM: Message edited by: Amarfa ]

[Amarfa]

the guys in Dr. who are pretty convincing. and don't forget how many people have played Hamlet throughout the centuries...Hamlet says the same exact thing every time, and is the same character, but the actor interprets him a little differently each time.
And speaking of Dr. Who, Christopher Eccleston and David Tennant are amazing, hot and totally should be in this movie. Even though they have big noses.

[joeann2005]

i hope whenever they get round to making it, it wont be too much like stargate as there is a similarity between the two ie vampires & goul'd. just make it good!
there, thats my 2 pence worth!

[Silver]

Well said, just make it good!

[Chris Banks]

Bob Hoskins as Turkur Tzonov??? Of course, IF IF they ever get that far in making the movie + sequels. Creepy, but ideal! :eek:
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[Helmet Head]

Chris what in the hell drugs are you on man, Bob Hoskins???

[Chris Banks]

Yeah H, Bob Hoskins, why not? :mad: A little weight training, hair loss and application of 9 yards of make up and , well ....... Bob's yer uncle!! :eek:
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[Helmet Head]

Turkur is tanned, slim, athletic, in his thirties and described as handsome!!!
Bob Hoskins is fat, short, pale, old and has never to my knowledge ever been described as handsome.....plus he's a cockney to boot ;)

[ June 19, 2006, 09:07 AM: Message edited by: The Helm ]

[Chris Banks]

Yeah, I'm aware of all that, H - BUT - where's your sense of adventure? S'pose you'd be happy with stereotype(casting) everyone? grin.gif Ok, Ok. I think I'd better think it out again!!!!!!! DOH! :(
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[Helmet Head]

Not stereotype casting, just the right man/woman for the role, thats why unknowns are best as you have no pre-conceptions of the person...

It's like the Harry Potter movies, I'm a big fan of the books just not the films as the casting is awful, spot on with Robbie Coltrane but completely off the mark with Sirrius, Snape the current Dumbledore and a whole host of others...it just ruins the illusion if the people dont fit the part.........

[Chris Banks]

Shattered illusions, H. In a way I do agree with you, but then again, look at the Star Wars films. It was casting from unknowns then, but who else could you see playing Han, Leya, or even Darth Vader (?), even though his voice was done by James Earl Jones (part acted by Dave Prowse, the original Green Cross Code man, I believe!) Yes, I am THAT old!!

The point is, unknowns are good, but they have to make the part believable. It's very much a hit or miss situation. Which is a plus sign I guess? Or not, as the case may be. I think... or something! :rolleyes:
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Me Transmitte Sursum, Caledoni!!

Spike - (The Uncivil Servant @ Taunton)

[Silver]

Un-knowns are the way to go I think, it did work for Star Wars, good example there Chris. Also with un-knowns you're not tainted by what they've already done, if you didn't like someone in something you may automatically think they'll be rubbish and that kind of thinking may make you dislike them in the movie regardless of whether they were good or not

[joeann2005]

what about a bald Keanu Reeves as Turkur?

[Chris Banks]

Or........ what about a bald Keanu Reeves! Heh heh heh. :eek: (Good shout, really Joeann)
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Me transmitte Sursum, Caledoni!!

Spike - (The Uncivil Servant @ Taunton)

[joeann2005]

good joke Chris! tongue.gif

[Chris Banks]

Joeann, who said I was joking.........? Ha! smile.gif
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"And what rough beast, its hour come round at last
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?"

Spike - (The Uncivil Servant @ Taunton)

[Iknowyourname]

Completely agree with Chris Banks about the non identical twins bit, everyone seems to see the original Harry 'through' Kyle. What a brill idea.

I know they probably couldn't afford him but I only see Patrick Stewart as Turkur.

Being a Sci Fi fan though you have to get Brian Thompson (the alien bounty Hunter in X files and loads of Star Trek and Buffy episodes in different guises)in there as one of the Wamphyri.

[Chris Banks]

I know I keep going off on one about Turkur the Tzonov, but, and this is gonna sound like the ultimate cheese - how about Dolph Lundgren as him? Do I get a free slap? tongue.gif
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"And what rough beast, its hour come round at last
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?"

Spike - (The Uncivil Servant @ Taunton)

[Silver]

You get many slaps! A younger Patrick Stewart could work I think, so all we need now is the tardis!

[Chris Banks]

Bloody Dr Who. Free slap please! :rolleyes:
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"And what rough beast, its hour come round at last
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?"

Spike - (The Uncivil Servant @ Taunton)

[Chris Banks]

Silver - still waiting!! (Drums fingers impatiently) Heh heh heh! tongue.gif
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"And what rough beast, its hour come round at last
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?"

Spike - (The Uncivil Servant @ Taunton)

[Amarfa]

I saw in one episode the doctor mind melding with madame du pompadour...When the hell did he visit vulcan???

[Amarfa]

Anyways, I wonder if some of the foam rubber and makeup stuff might not slow things down and make the wamphyri look like a monster from Power rangers. Although, they did a good job with G'kar on Babylon 5....

[Silver]

I didn't mean that it should be Dr Who style, hell no! Just made a fleeting reference to the tardis!

Chris, I give nothing for free!

[Chris Banks]

Silver, you spoilsport - ha ha! grin.gif Please no more tardis comments! Geoffrey Paxton - The Mindflea - possibly could be played by Sting!! smile.gif
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"And what rough beast, its hour come round at last
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?"

Spike - (The Uncivil Servant @ Taunton)

[Silver]

Hey I'm no spoil sport, but I don't do free, there is always a price!

Geoffrey Paxton as Sting, well he's certainly irritating enough!

[joeann2005]

& theres hell to pay if u dont! lol

[Chris Banks]

Silver, just joking - honest!! BUT; Geoffrey Paxton AS Sting!! Interesting. heh heh heh! ;)

And Joeann - hell to pay for what, exactly ? :eek:
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"And what rough beast, its hour come round at last
Slouches towards bethlehem to be born?"

Spike - (The Uncivil Servant @ Taunton)

[Chris Banks]

Just had a thought. Very topical, too. Christiano Ronaldo as Shaitan. Pretty Boy - allegedly (as was Shaitan originally), Oily Slug - allegedly (like Shaitan in the end) and f*** me, can he act!! - fact smile.gif
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"And what rough beast, its hour come round at last
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?"

Spike - (The Uncivil Servant @ Taunton)

[Silver]

Hee hee, as I'm laughing at that I just need to check, he's the footballer who supposedly got Rooney sent off isn't he??

I didn't notice I'd put Paxton and Sting the wrong way around but I'm leaving it that way, I like it!

[Chris Banks]

Aye Silver, that's the one!!! smile.gif Does very good chicken impressions as well! grin.gif __________________________________________________

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Backwards and forwards to damn me to hell"

Spike - (The Uncivil Servant @ Taunton)

[joeann2005]

what about Zidane then? he he

[Chris Banks]

Yep. What about him, Joeann? Ronaldo = Beavis, Zidane = Butthead!! Oh! Hahahahaha! tongue.gif
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Backwards and forwards to damn me to hell”

Spike – (The Uncivil Servant @ Taunton)

[Chris Banks]

Wot? No reply Joeann?! This is such a crap joke - even by my childish standards, I thought someone would have caught on to it!! :( :( :(
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Spike – (The Uncivil Servant @ Taunton)

[Goth Girl]

OT guys?

[Bite me]

When I first saw "Harry Potter", the moment Jason Isaacs (Lucious Malfoy) came on screen, I thought "Shaithis!". His arrogant aristocracy, yet hidden brutality, was absolutely superb.

I'd have to say, after having seen a few British movies since the last time I've posted on this subject, or one similar, is that the cast MUST be English. I've noticed that British actors tend to take a certain pride in their acting (especially for a screenplay written by a fellow countryman), rather than just showing up and spewing their lines to collect a paycheck.