View Full Version : IF PETER JACKSON OFFERS TO MAKE THE NECROSCOPE MOVIE.......DO IT!!!
Veriatus
December 20th, 2001, 04:22 PM
Just last night I saw Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring and all I can say is I'm going to see it again tomorrow afternoon and again Christmas Day (at night).
Probably, the greatest adaptation of a novel since Gone With the Wind.
Captivating, stunning, and indescribably beautiful to watch.
The technology is definitely there now to bring the world of Middle Earth to life. I can only imagine how horrifying and bloodcurdling Starside/Sunside will look.
If you haven't seen it...GO! If you have seen it...GO AGAIN!
If you didn't like it or are a purist, then go immolate yourself!
;)
DaveStrorm
December 21st, 2001, 12:48 AM
I've gotta agree. The visual effects were incredible and the story was very true to the book! Yeah, I know they left some things out, but they only had 3 hours to work with. This is one of the very few times I'm glad I read the book before seeing the movie.
And I will definitely go see it again!
As far as Sunside / Starside . . . I now believe it could definitely be done visually. That would be one (to begin with) awesome movie! Too bad that wasn't a Wamphyri trailer I saw instead of Queen of the Damned . . . Not that there's anything wrong with that! :D
topol_sheap
December 21st, 2001, 07:25 AM
I have to say, and I don't say this lightly (ask the shroom), but it was better than starwars.
Ok there were a couple of bit I didn't like having beena tolkien fan since I was 8, buit over all the single best movie adaptation in movie history (but let's not count fight club!)
The effects were easily the best use of CGI I have ever seen, and the sound rocked.
I also want to be an Uruk Hai. Wow, and wow again....
The casting was perfect... simple.
GO AND SEE IT....
Ema
December 21st, 2001, 10:44 AM
He is a good director Veriatus isn't he. :) I liked his other movies "Heavenly Creatures" & yes.. even "The Frightner's" MJF was pretty funny in that 'campy-type' movie.
Looking forward to seeing TLoTR's Saturday night!
Veriatus
December 21st, 2001, 11:43 AM
And let us not forget Mr. Jacksons other two 'gems', BAD TASTE & DEAD ALIVE. If you haven't seen those...well, you might as well pluck out your eyes for all the good they're doing you.....
;)
Lagula Longarm
December 24th, 2001, 05:00 AM
Just seen LOTR.... and it is everything you guys said it would be, it is easily the best adaptation i have seen, I agree there is some small details missing, but it takes nothing away from a stunningly awsome film.
The effects are amazing...Brian get this guy to read Necroscope now !!!!! :D
Vasagi
December 24th, 2001, 05:53 AM
The film is good. Easily the best fantasy I've ever seen, not that that would be difficult. I liked it more than I didn't like it, though it seemed Merry and Pippin has less than half a character between them, and what little they offered could've been incorporated into Samwise's character.
Frodo himself, didn't make much of an impression. Most of the time he looked like a child in a shopping mall who'd realised he'd lost his mother.
Boromir wasn't served well either. Shown as disrespetful and self-serving from the start, his weakness near the end had no dramatic punch.
Strider was good, as were Gandalf, Bilbo, and Legolas. Unfortunately every scene Frodo shared was stolen from him.
Gandalf's plunge into the depths, with Frodo's cry of 'Nooooooooo!' was too Hollywood, as was the bit with Frodo leaping onto the Brandywine ferry-boat with a Ring-wraith behind him. Sam's drowning sequence. What was that about?! It was needless. Oh, and I didn't like the soundtrack much. smile.gif
There wasn't nearly enough pipe smoking. The costumes were all great except Merry and Pippin looked like leprecauns. I was disappointed Saruman the White's robes didn't change colour. That was the best thing about the character! The squid (or was that a warrior waxing in a vat?) was cool. strange, but cool. The cave troll was excellent. Oh, and I loved the Ringwraiths at the Prancing Pony sequence, and Bilbo's covetness in the scene with Frodo in Elrond.
I've just read a review saying how bad the fight sequences were. I have to agree. They were crap. You couldn't tell what was happening. And even if you could, it was difficult to be moved by them. I thought the only good fight bit was with the cave troll seeking Frodo.
Lots I liked. Lots I didn't. For the most part, the things I didn't like were not diversions from the book but film-making flaws: characters that you are given no reason to care for; action sequences that were trite or edited in such a way that you did't know what was happening and merely waited for the sequence to end to discover who survived the latest peril.
I look forward to seeing additional footage on the DVD, as apparently the initial cut of the film stood at four hours.
Nathan
December 24th, 2001, 06:08 AM
No mention of Gimli there... Is his role minor? Doesn't seem possible that it could be. He's always been one of my favorites.
And the battle scenes aren't good, huh? And Borimir is portrayed negitavely? I'm guessing the chances for having he and Strider's little competition portrayed accurately are not favo(u)rable?
I'm seeing it tomorrow... finally. :(
But spoilers are okay. smile.gif
Vasagi
December 24th, 2001, 07:25 AM
Gimli's there of course but he's not given much screen time and he isn't very likeable. Looks like they crossed an ewok with a klingon.
I'd like to have seen him whack a few orcs. Maybe he did, but like I said, it was often difficult to tell what was happening in the fights.
It occurs to me that Brian Blessed would've been great in that role. He may've chewed the scenary a bit but you couldn't have ignored him. smile.gif
kenny
December 1st, 2004, 09:01 PM
This is to Vasagi in particular. Where you asleep when you saw LOTR.... The fight scenes to me were spot on. Have you ever read the book LOTR.... The film would be nothing without Merry or Pippin as they are too important to the story later. Since your first post re LOTR.... i assume that you have now seen the other films in the trilogy. They are the best I have ever seen to date.
Nathan
December 2nd, 2004, 12:15 AM
Good luck getting a response from him... he's been absent for quite some time now.
But I think all he was saying is that the Merry and Pippin in the movie weren't quite as developed as they should've been, at least not in The Fellowship.
In hindsight, I'm sure he'd agree that their part in the first movie was still necessary for later on, despite its apparent meaninglessness at the time. There's no way he could've known whether or not Jackson would continue that way throughout the next two. I was fairly surprised myself at how much time ended up being spent on Merry and Pippin when all was said and done. It was a fabulous adaptation.
It's also easy to forget that those two play almost as significant a role in the tale as Sam and Frodo do. Hell, it's easy to forget about all Hobbits' heroics! That's what makes the story so great! Jeez, reading back through this thread, I confused the players in the orc-killing contest! So mistakes are made...
But why didn't someone call me on it? I feel like a total arse now!
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VincentAlexander
December 2nd, 2004, 03:37 AM
Would I be tied up and staked if I said that I didn't like The Two Towers and Return of the King? Listening to Frodo and Sam whine throughout all of them was just too much for me...I was feeling the insanity of Frodo, which probably shows the movie was well-made, but I hated it. Don't get me wrong, they are definetely good. But The Fellowship of the Ring is my favorite.
Goth Girl
December 2nd, 2004, 06:52 AM
Not being a LOTR fan, I certainly wouldn't punish you for saying that!
But I would be interested to see what Peter Jackson made of the Necroscope... despite my dislike of LOTR, he's a talented director who I think would do a great job of turning one of our favourite books into our favourite film!
(which is the point of this thread when it was started, <i>not</i> a LOTR discussion please!)
Hubris
December 2nd, 2004, 01:40 PM
I'd have to say Jackson's vision of LOTR was a direct result of his passions for the books. I believe any talented director with that kind of passion for the Necroscope would have the same effect.
John & Paul
December 2nd, 2004, 02:36 PM
Yes look at Sam Raimi and Spiderman.. he was a massive fan and it shows in the films... so who gets to be director? Let's make it Silky, Goth Girl or Shadoe.. or maybe even Brian fancies a go at directing smile.gif
sdkdmd
December 2nd, 2004, 06:21 PM
Brain got my vote.
He should also have a part in it. ;)
how about..Sir Keenan Gormley?
Lupa the Ancient
December 3rd, 2004, 06:59 AM
What you say is true ..when anyone involved loves the source material its bound to be better.
Peter Jackson did a fantastic job with LOTRs.
Subliminal
December 6th, 2004, 07:14 PM
If Someone is attempting to make The Necroscope,I pray that they dont play it down to pg-13 this story deserves all the gore and horror that comes in a R movie or NC-17, I would love to see them make this movie so gore that it has to be NC-17.
Lumley has truly created the most in depth story I have ever read, that when I finished the legacy of books I felt a chapter of my life was over and I was sad:(
[ December 06, 2004, 04:16 PM: Message edited by: Subliminal ]
VincentAlexander
December 6th, 2004, 09:11 PM
I know what you mean...I almost cried when Harry Keogh died...Not really, but you know what I mean. I felt like I actually lost somebody I knew. And when I finished the series, I felt a part of me was gone as well. I pray that whoever takes up the job of directing has the same love for Necroscope as we all do.
Subliminal
December 9th, 2004, 05:39 PM
I dont know about you but Hollywood has done a good job of potching good books and or comics. I was seriously let down by the Spawn Movie. I did however like Van Helsings vampires, How there mouths alongated with a mouth full of daggers...ahh ya reminded me of the Wamphyri. However that movie would have been better if they could have included the gore that goes into a horror action film. I did like castle dracula, it reminded me of an aerie.
VincentAlexander
December 9th, 2004, 08:47 PM
- going a tid off topic, sorry - Van Helsin's Vampires had all those perfect little details I was looking for. Dracula had the perfect accent, the bridesmaid's had the perfect laugh, the score was perfect...It was a well-made movie. But Interview with the Vampire still hits number one for me.
HydraCluster
January 16th, 2005, 07:05 AM
Does anyone care about this series? The idea of an over the top Action Blockbuster sickens me. As a film Necroscope does not need a trailer with lots of explosions and some righteous score. To bring Necroscope to life, You really need a director who does'nt see the film as Horror, Action or Sci-fi.
I believe we are all excited about the idea of sitting in a theater and looking up at the screen when Harry first meets Mobius, but come on........we need a Director who can make those unheard of scenes and ideas fluent.
Here, let this equation sit on the computer screen of your mind.......
Spy Thriller[Horror(Vampire)+Science Fiction] = Necroscope
If its to be a movie, I say Terry Gilliam ( he directed 12 monkeys and Fisher King)
I'd honestly prefer it if Chris Carter and HBO teamed up on this one for a long winded NC-17 television series.
sdkdmd
January 16th, 2005, 11:56 AM
Necroscope on the big screen excited me,even though i have concerns about fitting just the first 5 novels into 1 or 2 or even 3 movies.
A mini series? could involve more novels but i don't see that ever happening, especially if a movie is made first.
To bring Harry and the Wamphyri into my home week after week smile.gif grin.gif :cool:
John & Paul
January 16th, 2005, 02:19 PM
I totally disagree Hydra I think that's exactly what they need to consider doing for Necroscope making it a big blockbuster (part action) movie. That's exactly what the books come over to me as. Yes you have the central characters who you get very involved with (as I did in the Lord of the Rings) but that is the part that casting gets right not the fact that the movie is action packed, horror or whatever.At the end of the day if the movie gets made and isn't up to people's expectations then you don't watch it again and don't buy it on dvd but in my humble opinion any movie is better than no movie. After all they said that Lord of the Rings could never be made into a movie and it was made into a blockbuster action movie and is probably one of the greatest movies in the last 50-60 years since the like of Ben Hur, Spatacus etc. All I ask for from the guys doing the movie is characterisation and good casting my imagination and enthusiasm will do the rest. smile.gif
Exsanguinator
January 16th, 2005, 05:33 PM
Since seeing Farscape: Peacekeeper Wars I know that TV Mini-Series can more than cut the mustard... Grand scale, violent, fetishistic and made by Hallmark!
As long as they've got a good script - and lets face it they have a great starting point in the novels - the outcome wwhatever the medium will be hreat...
skinters
February 19th, 2005, 11:51 PM
to be honest my heart says ,yeah make a necroscope film ,but my head is saying i just hope it dont turn out like so many book to films that have gone wrong in the past and cant really see any director script music score that will do the fantastic story brian has created any justice at all....i fear the worse
ill put this reply to all the of the necro film threads ,sorry i sound so negative ,jus my thoughts and i feel that its taking away the sincerity from brians work i dont know why i feel this way jus do .
skinters
February 20th, 2005, 12:32 PM
peter jackson ? hmmm not a personal choice
would love to see david cronenberg get a look in
Silver
February 21st, 2005, 03:31 PM
I think don't be disapointed in the movie before it's even been made, give it a chance!
If you already think it will fall short of your expectations, it will. Also remember that it's a movie, so it's not going to be exactly like the book, hopefully it'll be very close but even if it's not doesn't mean it'll be a bad film.
Lastly, if whoever is cast isn't who you would've pictured or isn't at all like you'd hoped they'd be it's not the end of the world, I bet we all see the characters differently in our own heads anyway!
skinters
February 21st, 2005, 05:35 PM
of course im with you there silver , if the film comes anywhere near close to brians work ill be like every1 else well pleased
its obviously not going to follow the book word for word no movie adaption ever does and is never practicle as they 2 totaly different media .
jus hope hollywood doesnt do a hack and slash job which its so good at doing when it sees a quick buck
[ February 21, 2005, 02:56 PM: Message edited by: skinters ]
TheGardenGnome
April 19th, 2005, 11:35 AM
OK, I'll first say yes LOTR trilogy was good. The backgrounds and scenery where the best. But...
Jackson has a well known dislike towards magic which is why you didn't see hardly any of it during the movie. So then my thoughts operate as such: If he doesn't like magic, then what about the heavy psychic overtone in the Necroscope movies? Would he downplay this as well. Think of all the abbilities E-branch has. Would he just show you the actors standing there and let you assume they are using their powers. Frankly, that's what I envision him doing. Which would make for a substandard movie. No, there has to be a bit of flare to keep the audience excited and I wouldn't put my trust in him. Not in a million years after watching LOTR.
I'd rather see someone like Sam Rami direct. His work is diverse from horror to action to comedy. Sure, we'd have to put up with his brother playing a small part, but he would be a better choice.
Exsanguinator
April 19th, 2005, 01:08 PM
But it wold also guarentee The Chin a role too!
TheGardenGnome
April 24th, 2005, 08:39 AM
oooooooo I forgot about him. Hmmm, maybe he would make a decent Kyle.
Dave Black
March 16th, 2006, 12:51 PM
Any body seen Peter Jacksons 'Braindead' ? Utterly gross and totally hilarious but I suggest you watch that 1st before deciding hes the best director for Necroscope, LOTR was done with a big budget, watch Braindead and see what he does with no budget.
Apocalyptic Destroyer Of Angels
March 16th, 2006, 06:48 PM
I think Jackson does his best work with very little budget. Having said that, Bad Taste is dreadful (but a classic).
Robert Rodriguez should also not be over looked!. His attention to detail is amazing and the effects he achieves for very little money are always outstanding.
[ April 05, 2006, 11:47 AM: Message edited by: Apocalyptic Destroyer Of Angels ]
lvwildside
June 13th, 2006, 03:47 PM
I wouldn't mind getting both Jackson and Rodriguez to work on the film, Im thinking L.O.T.R. meets Dusk til Dawn.
John & Paul
June 13th, 2006, 05:22 PM
Now that sounds like a movie!!!
Silver
June 13th, 2006, 05:41 PM
I like your thinking
Chris Banks
September 26th, 2006, 10:22 AM
Just noticed this thread. This is such a fkn cool idea! LOTR & FDTD! Wah! Outrageously camp! But it'd be brilliant to watch, I bet. Santanico Pandemonium meets Wratha The Risen/Lady Karen. YOU! Be cool. Everybody! Be cool! Heh heh heh! :D :D
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Grim
January 6th, 2007, 04:39 PM
You have hit the nail square on the head, I think there are a very few that can direct on that mans "epic" level. To think you could possibly take the first 4 novels of the Necroscope series and produce a triligy. Even with juzt those 4 novels combined even a none reader would be able to follow the story fully without feeling confused or per say left out!
That being said I truly think Peter Jackson would work wonders on Brian lumleies Necroscope.
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Grim
January 19th, 2007, 08:12 PM
:D Wow. Hydracluster,
gotto say, even though Terry Gilliam may have directed 12 monkeys, I'd have to say that waz hiz only true achievement in movies. Truly you'll have to admit that with out the talents of both Brad Pitt and Bruce Willis that movie would never have enjoyed the media and succes it did. Personally even though it waz a great story and had some sweet twists, I can't even compare him to Peter Jackson...
HydraCluster, I can't imagine this movie ruining anyting that Brian has done, being that he is so well established as an author. As for the series, being The Necroscope, I think that Brians uniqie look at Vamps would alone bring an new audiance to Brians books. I juzt think the old take on Vamps has been staked 2 death and we really need a fresh perspecive such as Brians on the Vampire world and such.....
So I really would think a Movie or movies is actaully a really good Idea, and a final note, not all books fail to translate into excellent movies, ask Peter Jackson.....
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siadojack
August 23rd, 2010, 05:21 PM
You don't know what your talking about. peter jackson's Lord of the Rings is the worst movie adaptation ever made. Casting...fine, costumes...fine, set designs...fine, special effects...great, storyline...was so far off it may as well have been a new story out of his own imagination! If you want to see a B-rated book made into a movie, get peter jackson and let him mess with the story all he wants, but don't ruin a classic like Lord/Rings. The only series I've ever seen make so many mistakes in comparison with the original story was Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson's continuation of the Dune series (in my opinion...the ONLY series that is better than Necroscope, but the two are oh so close together on my list). If he gets to make the Necroscope movies, I will NOT be watching them. I believe Necroscope is one the best series ever written. I've worn out ALL the books in the series several times, and gladly paid to replace them in order to wear them out again, but I repeat...I will NOT watch a series made by peter jackson. I'll just have to read the books again instead (which, of course, I will be doing anyway).
james1984
September 5th, 2010, 11:56 PM
to name a good few directors besides those listed....how bout Tim Burton...or Ridley Scott or James Cameron...or Scott/Cameron togethor besides if they made a movie togethor it should be another aliens movie...Jerry Bruckheimer is another good director...Rodriques is a good director i wanna see his adaptation of Predators...but still if anyone should have a go maybe Cameron should do it...he can do great movies that peek at the box office
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