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kenny
May 20th, 2006, 10:17 PM
When not if(i'm optimistic)the movie goes into production how far will they go. After all there are 14 books. If they can do it with Harry Potter!!!

Showoff
May 21st, 2006, 05:50 AM
As much as i would like to see that smile.gif , I would highly doubt it :( . Potter movies are for a wide range of people, Necroscope is definetly not. The audience would not be there as in the potter movies. They did it with The Friday the 13th movies but they ended up in the dumpster after to long. I read a book years ago, Still have it somewhere, Vampire$, cannot remember the author, about four years or so ago John Carpenter did a strait to DVD movie. It was butt ugly awful. I'd rather see one to three real good Necroscopes in stead of 14 complete duds.
"B" movies are one thing, but some go strait to "F". And thats not a letter grade i'm using. grin.gif

Lord Scorpio
May 22nd, 2006, 11:12 PM
I agree. I doubt that there would be 14 movies. That is a lot. 3 tends to be a good number. 5 could be a stretch but possible if it is very popular (makes lots of money). If done well though I can see the first 3 books becoming a movie trilogy. Or depending on how they want to handle things, you might see a few books squished together into one movie, taking parts from a few books and making one ... different movie. Though it would be awesome to see the Vampire World Trilogy turned into a movie as well. At this time I am not holding my breath for anything. I have seen too many long awaited book to movies turn bad.

Chris Banks
May 24th, 2006, 12:27 PM
Totally agree. VW Trilogy would be awesome as a film, or possibly two. No Anime or animation though :( . What, with CGi etc today, I'm sure they could make a good fist of it. Animation seems the easy way out. Perhaps HR Giger could be called in to design The Aerie (Karenstack) :eek: . Now that would be worth seeing! Indeed. What say you, guys n gals?
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topol_sheap
May 24th, 2006, 08:22 PM
isn't cgi just another form of animation??? or is that the point you're trying to get across, no cgi?

confused? I am

Silver
May 25th, 2006, 01:58 AM
No I think Chris is saying that CGI is good, other forms of animation bad.

I agree with Tops, CGI is animation too but I wouldn't be put off by it or any other kind.

I like animated films, think that some modern films rely a bit too strongly on CGI though, but I like the old cheesy style of doing things with make up and prosthetics. I think that would be cool, an old stylee vampire world film!

Chris Banks
May 25th, 2006, 12:25 PM
Basically, I think CGi would be a good thing for this kind of film (flyers n beasts espeshly). Modern advancement these days allows for a little leeway in trying to get the mood right and set the scene. In fact, now that CGi is prevalent in a lot of the so called 'blockbusters', I think they'd be hard pushed to do without it. blush.gif Still, I'd personally prefer to see 'real' actors portraying the characters. It doesn't feel right that a possible film of these dimensions would be totally animated. ;) Perhaps I'm in a minority though? :confused:
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Lord Scorpio
May 25th, 2006, 05:53 PM
If the movie is done live action then it is probably a good bet there would be some CGi. When the dead walk, there is only so much makeup can do compared to CGi. And if they go into the Vampire World I think they would rely even more on it. I don't know about a fully CGi animated film though. If done well ok, but I am not all that fond of how humans tend to come out in such films.

I would like to see a live action movie, but I am not opposed to cartoon animation either. I have seen some very impressive animated movies, and I am not talking Disney here either. If it came down to it I would rather see a good cartoon that sticks close to the original story and feel than a special effects spectacular that strays from the story or just does not keep the feel, or just totally screws up. As an example I think that the Spawn animated movies are much better than the live action movie. I have only watched the live action movie once but I own the animated movies. Whatever the format I just hope they create something that makes people want to watch it again.

Amarfa
May 25th, 2006, 11:57 PM
Hi! I'd just like to say that I for one loved Batman Begins, and I'd like to see that team work on Necroscope. That movie was incredibly satisfying to watch, at least as satisfying as it is to read about the various Necroscopes! What's important to me about cgi, animation, and filmmaking in general is the blend of the artificial with the actual. It should just fit.

John & Paul
May 27th, 2006, 05:12 AM
I totally agree Amarfa, I really enjoyed Batman Begins too.. It was well done and quite dark, just like Necroscope should be..and wouldn't it be good for Brian to have a bit part like Stan Lee in the Marvel movies.. I can just imagine Brians deep voice in the movie !!

Amarfa
May 27th, 2006, 08:49 AM
yeah..maybe even with the electronic voice enhancer like Darth Vader...just so long as they don't stick him with a corny line at the end of the movie....NOOOOOOOO! grin.gif

Silver
May 27th, 2006, 06:55 PM
Batman begins was an excellent film and I agree that it was blended together very well and that's just the kind of thing I mean, well said Amarfa, I have no objection to any kind of film making but it should all fit together.

Amarfa
May 27th, 2006, 07:23 PM
:cool: :)thanks! They should get the same folks to do the music too. Scoring is really important in a film.

T. Stone
June 8th, 2006, 09:32 AM
Here’s a thought. Why not do a trilogy and then roll everything into a television series? With the cable, satellite, and broadcast services today; the current level of technology, it’d be easily doable and there is enough source material (right now) for…cripes, 20 years.

Quit thinking small!

Give us our trilogy, and then fry our brains on the television for the next 20 years, and *All PRAISE TEH GREAT OLD ONE* on top of that?

More books!

Life is schweet!

Amarfa
June 8th, 2006, 09:59 AM
TV might honestly ruin it...i've just seen x3 and loved every minute of it, and have no desire to see it chopped up between commercials like so much liver...The work and cohesion necessary for Necroscope might easily be trashed by advertisements constantly blaring and vying for attention.

Honestly though, I'll build my life around it if it ever does get put on... grin.gif

[ June 08, 2006, 01:00 AM: Message edited by: Amarfa ]

T. Stone
June 8th, 2006, 10:10 AM
one word.

TIVO

And I was thinking about the popularity series like Stargate have recieved, and of course, the new BSG on the SCIFI channel here in the states. SG1 started as a Showtime series here, and was picked up by USA and turned over to the SCIFI channel, now they have spawned a spin-off series and the show is still going strong.

Since so much of Stargate seems steeped in Lumley lore, it'd be an easy pinch to script the programs for a new Lumley Necroscope series.

At least, that's the fantasy.

Amarfa
June 9th, 2006, 10:26 AM
lol not everyone has enough money to buy a tivo, specially not me tongue.gif And if stargate needs to "borrow" from "lumley lore' it isn't so great is it? I've pretty much stopped watching it because even still the writing has gotten pretty bad. If they wanted to do anything good again they'd have to go into movies. Which brings us pretty much back to where we started.

But you know what i'd like to see? I'd want to know if anybody else has a vision for any particular scene in the necroscope series... You know, i think i'll post that as a new topic...You've given me a great idea grin.gif

T. Stone
June 9th, 2006, 12:39 PM
Well, I think it’s great because it shows the influence he’s had on modern film and television. I mean, who didn’t automatically associate the Goulds as a Lumlarian invention? They’re snakelike, they invade the host and take over, enhance the host's strength, their intelligence as well as the base human emotions. Stargate, essentially, is a pure science fiction take on Lumley’s Necroscope, they even have portals via a quasi-Möbius strip.

Hmmm, now that I think about it…has B.L. thought about suing the makers of Stargate?

LoL

But yeah, I still like it because the show has hints of Lumley’s fertile imagination, and I attribute the show’s success due to the influence of courses he’s previously charted. There is no denying the man’s got IT when it comes to imagination.

[ June 09, 2006, 03:42 AM: Message edited by: T. Stone ]

Amarfa
June 9th, 2006, 11:00 PM
lol yeah, i picked up on that, and funny thing is, I had a hard time explaining it to my boyfriend, who read Necroscope and *gasp* didn't love it! But inch by inch, i'll get him to read or at least know the rest of the series grin.gif Hopefully by the time the movie comes out, anyway!

Silver
June 10th, 2006, 03:53 AM
It has been mentioned before how similar Stargate is to some of Lumley's themes, well anyone whose ever read Lumley and seen an episode of Stargate would have to be blind to not see the similarities!

Necro
August 25th, 2006, 03:52 AM
I would really love to see a live action movie as well. I just don't see it working. It would have to have some much CGI vs. live material, it would end up like The Hulk. To further comment on the LOTR references. One of the reasons the CGI looked so darn good in LOTR is the budget. Programmers are expensive! If the production company spends the right amount of $$$ to make it on par with LOTR or Batman begins, maybe. I just don't see them doing this. LOTR was a rare example of a movie company doing the right thing and Batman is a proven franchise. Meaning they pretty much knew if they spent the right amount of $$$ they would see a return. Sorry if I seem jaded. It's just that I have seen so many good books butchered at the hands of greedy movie companies to put much faith in them....

Silver
August 26th, 2006, 07:21 PM
No need to apologise for appearing jaded, I think most of us have doubts about how good it will be because there is so much that could be done badly!

Though I'm trying to be optomistic and hope that it'll actually get made for a start, and be fantastic when it's done!

posem
August 30th, 2006, 06:14 PM
as yoda says
"wait you must, shit it maybe, see if it is when out it comes"

Chris Banks
September 1st, 2006, 10:13 AM
Seek therapy, you must!!! :eek: :eek:
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Bawjawz
September 9th, 2006, 05:20 PM
I would really love to see a live action movie as well. I just don't see it working. It would have to have some much CGI vs. live material, it would end up like The Hulk. To further comment on the LOTR references. One of the reasons the CGI looked so darn good in LOTR is the budget. Programmers are expensive! If the production company spends the right amount of $$$ to make it on par with LOTR or Batman begins, maybe. I just don't see them doing this. LOTR was a rare example of a movie company doing the right thing and Batman is a proven franchise. Meaning they pretty much knew if they spent the right amount of $$$ they would see a return. Sorry if I seem jaded. It's just that I have seen so many good books butchered at the hands of greedy movie companies to put much faith in them....

Yip, ive seen a lot of disasters with Clive Barker book to movie attempts. Only Hellraiser and Candyman stick in my mind and they were short stories.

megadeth
September 9th, 2006, 08:10 PM
I'm also scared about what the outcome of the movie may be. The basic ideas, (instant teleportation, talking to the dead, ESP talents, vampires and Vampire Worlds), could sound corny to the casual viewer. It is Brian's writing that makes them truly special. In the wrong hands it could finish up looking like a cheap B-movie.

I really hope I'm wrong. I know I sound really pessimistic but this is a really great chance to make a superb film, and it would be a real pity to waste it

John & Paul
September 10th, 2006, 12:52 AM
I agree what you say that's why I think they have to spend time as Brian did building up the characters first and the gradual introduction of the deadspeak and the Moebius Continuum not just rush into the action. If you believe in the character then you can believe in the impossible or implausible things they can do....just look at the Spider-man movie, is there anything less plausable than a nerd who gets bitten by a spider then can swing from a web and sense danger? It's totally believable because Sam Raimi loved the character and kept to the characterisation of the original writing..... Please Sam Raimi if you ever read this do the Necroscope movie :D

Silver
September 10th, 2006, 04:11 PM
I would prefer a fantastic movie of course, but to be honest if it did turn out like a cheesy B movie I'd probably still love it!

megadeth
September 10th, 2006, 07:35 PM
Getting it made in the first place is the most important thing, but I would still prefer a brilliant movie to a cheap looking B-movie (Not to suggest that all B-movies are bad)

Chris Banks
September 11th, 2006, 08:49 AM
Just a shame that Hitchcock isn't still around. He'd've made a great cameo (as he did in many of his films) as a gas-beast!!!!! Arf arf! :D And a useful director as far as I remember.
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Necro
September 12th, 2006, 06:13 AM
Getting it made in the first place is the most important thing, but I would still prefer a brilliant movie to a cheap looking B-movie (Not to suggest that all B-movies are bad)


B-movies rock! Long live Evil Dead and it's sequels! Sorry, had to say it.

Sam Raimi or Peter Jackson are the directors I can think of that would do Necroscope justice. They're they only directors I can think of that aren't afraid to stay true to the story AND do long films. Although in the case of King Kong, I wish Pete hadn't!