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torchomatic
March 13th, 2007, 06:52 AM
We've heard it before haven't we that the next Necroscope book will be the last. Is "The Touch" truly the last of the Saga?

I've always wanted to know how things panned out for Trask and Co after Avengers. Ah well, I'll make it up myself. :rolleyes:

Ilya Sul
March 13th, 2007, 11:22 AM
I'd say...wait and see...or in German :D..."Abwarten und Tee trinken"
Maybe Mr Lumley is already at work, thinking or not...I really can't say..

Trimmer
March 14th, 2007, 12:49 AM
I think The Touch was a bit disconnected from the original Necroscope concept in that the Necroscope was no longer fighting vampires. So although it may be officially a part of the series I see it somewhat as a thread that has ventured off in another direction and I would like any future book to be directed more towards the battle against the blood suckers.

As others have suggested the dweller's time on sunside/starside may be the plot to carry on the saga.:)

Helmet Head
March 14th, 2007, 08:33 AM
The Touch was a good book, but I felt that if it was removed from the Necro universe it could of been so much better.
Brian's style of writing is my absolute favourite to read, and the back story in the Touch about this Alien race was brilliant and up there with some of his best stuff, but I felt it got held back by the inclusion of e-branch and Harry Keogh.
Dont get me wrong I love Harry etc and a brand new Necroscope is always welcome as long as there's the scope and space for it in the series but thats not all that Brian's writing is about and I felt Brian had some really good ideas with this and they weren't done enough justice in this book...

Thats just my opinion as most others loved it but for the first time ever I got frustrated with one of Brians books and was just as shocked when I started thinking that I wished this was a stand alone book and not a Necroscope one.

sdkdmd
March 14th, 2007, 01:24 PM
I thought the book was excellent. I think I would of enjoyed it more if it was a stand alone novel. I'm looking forward to the short stories Brian's working on about Harry, but I don't know if I want to see more necroscope novels.

I want to see more stand alone novels.

Bite me
April 18th, 2007, 06:28 PM
Since the end of Avengers, I've always hoped, deep down in the bottom of my heart that somewhere in Brian's mind was the thought to resurrect Harry. For whatever reason, be it a warp in the Gate dropping one of the Wamphyri off on another, more advanced, planet (surely there aren't just two grey holes in all the multiverses!), or something equally sinister, I'd love to see a reason to bring Harry back with the full range of powers. Hell, even team him up with Nathan, since Nathan learned to travel between universes without the use of the Gates.

Sure, Harry is scattered throughout all the universes, and throughout time, but if the Powers that Be can distribute him so, what's to stop them from bringing him back together?

megadeth
April 21st, 2007, 08:18 PM
An interesting thought Bite. I would second that idea.

Chris Banks
April 22nd, 2007, 09:13 AM
Seems like a cunning plan.............:rolleyes:

Rick27
May 2nd, 2007, 07:02 AM
Hey all, good to be here among avid BL fans.

As to the topic i hope with all my heart that Brian carries on with the Necro series. Id give my left arm for him to write another 2/3 books detailing the war on our Earth between the rival vampire clans that E-branch are involved in (when Ian Goodly spies the future in Avengers)

Heres hoping, Rick

Bite me
June 7th, 2007, 06:36 PM
For whatever reason, be it a warp in the Gate dropping one of the Wamphyri off on another, more advanced, planet (surely there aren't just two grey holes in all the multiverses!), or something equally sinister, I'd love to see a reason to bring Harry back with the full range of powers. Hell, even team him up with Nathan, since Nathan learned to travel between universes without the use of the Gates.

So, just for the hell of it, I was re-reading "The Source"....and in the battle for the garden, both Harry and The Dweller let a couple of lieutenants charge them and follow them into the Continuum, then exited, leaving the lieutenants in the Continuum. As I recall, Harry said numerous times that if he let it, the Continuum would eventually eject him, like a mote in it's immaterial eye. So here, if Brian ever reads these things, is a nice starting point if he ever decides to start another trilogy with the Wamphyri, in future Earth time. Just let the Continuum dump the lieutenants (or their bodies) somewhere where spacetime is thin, such as an advanced planet where warfare or warp-drive usage has left spacetime thin from repeated abuse.

Chris Banks
June 8th, 2007, 03:00 AM
Which is exactly where I saw The Mordri Three (THAT ******* number, YET again) being spewed forth from (without they themselves knowing it - a bit like Shaitan I s'pose). Just imagination, 's all. :rolleyes:

drterror666
July 14th, 2007, 08:50 AM
Well, I finished The Touch last night and, although I found it a really great story, I feel that Brian is pushing it a little bit. I do like the way he's filling the holes with these stories, but surely he can't go any further with the whole Necroscope concept? There's only so many times that various people can be made to forget everything!

I think there are only a few real possibilities left:

1) Something happens in the far future of Earth, maybe involving the survivors of the Shing't massacre.

2) A new extraterrestrial/interdimensional threat raises its head on Starside/Sunside.

I truly do not see how Brian could reintroduce any more Wamphyri!

pheral
July 14th, 2007, 10:46 AM
I really love all the Necroscope books but have to admit to missing Harry's presence in the last few. ( E-branch series and The Touch. ) Saying that I enjoyed the e-branch books better because you got to know the lead character better The Touch was to short and to introduce a new concept into the equation just did not work as well as it could have.
I would love to see harry back in a future book but think there is plenty of avenues to explore with Harry's golden darts.
Whatever happens please Brian write more!! I need more necroscope.

John & Paul
July 14th, 2007, 04:10 PM
I don't think you'll have that long to wait for another few Harry adventures :D

Chris Banks
July 16th, 2007, 02:58 AM
You could try and find Harry Keogh and Other Weird Heroes. I think it's available in Waterstones and the like at the moment. They can certainly get hold of a copy for you if you ask.;)

Bite me
December 25th, 2007, 02:48 AM
I think there are only a few real possibilities left:

1) Something happens in the far future of Earth, maybe involving the survivors of the Shing't massacre.

2) A new extraterrestrial/interdimensional threat raises its head on Starside/Sunside.

I truly do not see how Brian could reintroduce any more Wamphyri!

If I recall correctly, someone at the end of "The Touch" says that Shania and Scott keep their memories so that one day, when an alien race does contact Earth, there can be someone there who remembers.

In "Avengers" Goodly's precognitive journeys during his vampire sleep indicate that in the future, there will indeed be Necroscope(s) descended from Jake and Liz...so if/when that contact occurs, surely a very long deceased Scott or Shania would try to contact the Necroscope(s) of that time.

I do know this much, though: There's *more* than enough potentially loose ends to make "The Touch" an integral part in any (crosses fingers, knocks on wood, prays to St. Jude) future Necroscope novels.

Dragonosi
December 26th, 2007, 06:49 AM
Just a thought guys...the future isnt the only place to look for interesting stories in the necroscope worlds...theres a three thousand year span between the infection of Shaitan the Fallen and the arrival of Harry in Sunside/Starside that is only lightly touched on...Nathans wasnt the only bloodwar.

Build a man a fire, he will be warm for a night. Light a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life.

Ilya Sul
January 3rd, 2008, 07:24 AM
Waldemar Ferenczy, he never actually died. ;)

esoper
January 5th, 2008, 01:19 PM
Ive always been so enthralled by the necroscope books thats its hard to imagine them coming to an end, so therefore I hope in whatever way they keep going!! Whether it is in another thread such as Scott St. John battling aliens or a new uprising of the wamphyr, it matters not to me just the ideas and the sheer adventure of the books is what captivates me and keeps me wanting more!! Lets see what Mr. Lumley has in store for us in the future!!

Dragonosi
January 16th, 2008, 04:56 PM
Finished reading the touch last night and i have to agree...though a great book..it didnt much feel like a necroscope book and my reasoning is that ive always refered to the series as "My favorite vampire book series". and other than mentioning mind-smog and wamphyri themselves once or twice...they simply didnt matter in this book. as far as it being the last of the necroscope books or what have you..im reminded of what trask was telling nathen about the nightmare zone before going there...that trask witnessed st.john move a sheet of paper across his desk without having touched it..seems kinda tough to remember that when A. it didnt happen in the touch and B. the memory of st.john was removed from the minds of e-branch....so im betting scott will be seen again..and with a lovely wife and loyal wolf in tow.

just a thought...if ,durning the 3ish months after harry left earth for residence on starside, he was out and about one night and saw a clock with 4 oddly moving hands on its face land before him...and titus crow stepped out of the clock...and from there (place grand adventure here)..would it then be a necroscope book or in with the titus crow series? thats kinda how i view the touch being a necroscope addition...enough e-branch and harry to give it the necroscope title.

Build a man a fire...he will be warm for a night...Light a man on fire...he will be warm for the rest of his life.

Drago

posem
January 18th, 2008, 03:51 AM
whoop, 3 book trilogy just like vampire world, except wholly based on starside/sunside depicting the long years that the blood wars went on between shaitan

the 3 books will depict what happened to shaitan when he got infected, end of last of the 5th necro book, and then continue from there, how he built his aremy, the other lords

will make a wicked set o books XD

Duck!
February 12th, 2008, 10:31 PM
One of the lords literally went underground to escape Shaitan & has been there ever since, his food source / live stock lost their tans etc, new underground creepy crawley creations etc

The lord either re-emerges after the planet shifts or someone falls down a hole, follows a tunnel & finds them? The battle continues ...

Just my 2c

Radu_Wolfbite
February 15th, 2008, 09:26 AM
I agree with posem, a complete history of the vampire world, or maybe a history of starside/sunside. It could include the szgany's history before the gate was formed as well as after and the historys of the thyre. Just a thought....

Sophie
February 19th, 2008, 07:29 PM
sometimes you can wreck a good thing by over doing it.

lee
February 20th, 2008, 11:08 AM
have not read the touch yet is it a good enough book to add to the rest of th collection.i have read all the other books from necroscope to the e branch trilogy.

Ilya Sul
February 20th, 2008, 02:05 PM
Just like me, I still haven't bought and read the Touch. The absence of any Wamphyri Lord and those aliens are well...scaring me off a little. :(

Shaithin
February 21st, 2008, 07:37 AM
Hi all.

I'm a long time fan of Brian Lumley's works, read the Psycho--- trilogy, his Lovecraft inspired works and all 14 books of the Necroscope Saga.

Yes, The Touch is a slight departure from the Necroscope universe, but, it does act as a bridge to some of BL's other works.

As a true fan of BL's I'd say buy it, if nothing else it's good addition to your shelf.

Yes, "The Touch" is different from his other books. All I'd say is BL has been writing for twenty odd years. Just give his writing a chance to change.

hellrot
February 27th, 2008, 11:41 AM
i think it would be cool to have a series from shaitains time to the arrival of the dweller i think there are a lot of stories waiting in the little we learn of it in the source, deadspawn and resurgence:the lost years. I also quite enjoy the old history as retold in the first two books and i think brian lumley could tell tales that include another bloodsucker from the past (something along the lines of the lost years). The touch was a little off but just as good although the foes were different read was pretty good. One other thing i think would be good is to touch upon our world of the future at the end of avengers or even to explore some other worlds or dimensions using the mobious continuum.