Any info about the movie yet?

[Erudite Ed]

Does anyone know any details about the movie yet? Who will be producing it? When will the movie be in production/released? Who will be/has written the script?

It would be great if it is going to be filmed in the UK! If there was the option to buy-in to the movie that would be great too. For the movie Outlaws, you could go onto the website and pay £180 to have your name on the credits and be an extra in the film. They even threw in a free T-shirt! :cool:

[John & Paul]

I don't think it's that far on yet Ed. They have just paid for the option which means they have the rights to make the movie but not necessarily the finances as yet.

[Ilya Sul]

Honestly?I would prefer if they cancelled the movie. Do not get me wrong...I really would like to watch it as a movie, but I am concerned that they can neither do the Wamphyri justice nor Continuum nor anything else. I fear that the Wamphyri will mutate to tame TV-Vampires lacking their viles, wisdom, intelligence and brutality and that the actors would like to give them a personal fuc**** touch!? Only think of Johnny Depp as a Lord of the Wamphyri...awful...
Likewise the script.... I mean they can hardly use the book...so they will add more action scenes and cancel many of the talking parts..change...and diffuse.....no no no...not with me. I am out of it. Haha

[John & Paul]

Well that's unless I win £100 million on the Euro Lottery and finance it myself :D ... Here's hoping :D

[Chris Banks]

Hang on J/P. I can lend you a couple of quid!!! :D

[Ilya Sul]

Haha :D maybe we should open a donationpot....

[Erudite Ed]

It looks like this company is doing the movie:

Evolving Pictures Entertainment
3151 Cuenga Blvd W.
suite 110
los angeles, CA 90068
US
Phone: 877-215-3646
E-mail: evolvingpictures@yahoo.com

Sounds like they are an independent film company so I wouldn't expect big budget Hollywood effects! CGI is cheap enough now so they should be able to do a decent job with the special effects, it all depends on how committed they are to the project...

[Ilya Sul]

Jesus, I hope they'll read the books at all *_*

[Erudite Ed]

There have been many movies done on a small budget that have turned into cult classics; Evil Dead, Phantasm, Herbert West: Reanimator, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, The Hills have Eyes etc. etc.

I think the key to their success lies mostly with the story and character development than the effects themselves. They have probably picked up the franchise because of the recent vampire movies like Blade and Underworld rather than Interview with the Vampire. There is also the added element of Deadspeak and government involvement that they can focus on to add a much richer tapestry to what is essentially an exhausted genre...

[Ilya Sul]

But they will need special effects..at least for the Continuum, the flashback to WW2 and the final Battle.
But you're right about "story>effects" and they have a hell of a good one here ...so maybe there is still hope for me :D

[Chris Banks]

Aaahhhhhh! But how do you create SFX for a total void. A big black empty nothing??? In effect, a vacuum. :rolleyes:

[topol_sheap]

surely filming with the lens cap on will suffice - I can't see how that's going to be expensive ;)

[Chris Banks]

:D :D

Damn. I wish I'd have thought of that!! You're not barking mad really, are you Tom? :rolleyes:

[John & Paul]

Either that or they film through your ear Chris :D :D :D :D :D
Only joking mate...I couldn't resist... your question just begged for a joke reply !!!!!

[John & Paul]

You'd make a perfect straight man.. In a comedy sense !!! :D

[matman72]

I don't think it's that far on yet Ed. They have just paid for the option which means they have the rights to make the movie but not necessarily the finances as yet.
There's one advantage in that. I think the more time that lapses, the more chance that someone pops up with the passion, the means, and the know-how to really do the story justice. e.g. Peter Jackson had the vision to keep the script of LOTR pretty much how it was meant to be. It's one of the best adaptations of a book/s I can recall. I liked the screenplay of King Kong as well-can imagine Starside in a similar 'light'.
Guess we'll all be watching any developments

[Erudite Ed]

I just hope they don't hire Ewe Boll to direct it - he did Alone in the Dark and House of the Dead. Two films that I would rather rip my eyes from their sockets than have to endure again!

I think that the people who did Silent Hill would be a good choice for this movie...

[Chris Banks]

You'd make a perfect straight man.. In a comedy sense !!! :D

Hey, I resemble that remark!! I'll have you know there's pure daylight thru my ears John!! Cheeky bugger. Ha! :D

[matman72]

Idon't think we have to worry about that Ed, I think Brian & co will have the insight to see a good director when they see one(give Peter Jackson the books to read). I am saying this in ignorance, as I dont know much about him, what I have heard is all negative critisism.
Good news for ya Ed,he is in pre-production of Alone in the Dark:D :p ;) .I just hope they don't hire Ewe Boll to direct it - he did Alone in the Dark and House of the Dead. Two films that I would rather rip my eyes from their sockets than have to endure again!

I think that the people who did Silent Hill would be a good choice for this movie...

[Ilya Sul]

Hah my god, I renember Alone in the Dark and I did not manage to watch longer than 20 minutes. What a gruesome piece of s***.
Ed, you are definitely right, let us hope they won't have to many pints and hire him for the movie :(

[matman72]

Do you guys know something I don't? This speculation about Uwe Boll, there's no talk of using him is there?

[Ilya Sul]

Fortunately not :D

[Erudite Ed]

I was just thinking of Ewe because AITD was the last big budget mythos-based film I could think of...

My only other concern is that if the production company is based in the US are they going to be able to come to the UK for location shoots or are we going to see an American Harry with a dodgy english accent walking around a US town that we are meant to believe is in the UK?

I suppose the easiest solution would be to change the story so it is all based in the US instead...

[matman72]

What do you know about it so far Ed? and who is AITD?:confused:
thanx mate

[Chris Banks]

I was just thinking of Ewe because AITD was the last big budget mythos-based film I could think of...

My only other concern is that if the production company is based in the US are they going to be able to come to the UK for location shoots or are we going to see an American Harry with a dodgy english accent walking around a US town that we are meant to believe is in the UK?

I suppose the easiest solution would be to change the story so it is all based in the US instead...

Ok, worst case scenario, I agree. But why not just make the whole damn film in the UK? It ain't rocket science. And we've actually made 1 or 2 good films over here................ allegedly :rolleyes::eek:

[Erudite Ed]

AITD = Alone In The Dark ;)

I agree, making the film in the UK would be great - I'd be first in the queue to be an extra!

Who knows, maybe Evolving Pictures Entertainment will do a great job, I mean they have produced 2 films so far and they have one in production for release in 2008 so they must know what they are doing! :p

By the way, I have no insider knowlege of what is going on with the movie - I only found the name of the production company by checking out the registration for the necrosopethemovie.com domain name!

More on Evolving Pictures Entertainment here:
http://www.imdb.com/company/co0047632/

[Erudite Ed]

Correction: Evolving Pictures Entertainment have produced 1 independent film and a short...

[matman72]

Alone In The Dark, should of seen that:o.
Evolving pictures hey? i'll checkout IMDB.
thanx man

[matman72]

Just checked out IMDB - doesn't look promising.:(
Evolving Pictures have used a Canadian guy, Harris Goldberg to direct both of their films, Where's Angelo? and Love Conquers Paul(also wrote).
Has anybody heard of these films, sound like pornos to me:confused:.

Harris Goldberg is also known for writing:
- Deuce Bigalow (both of 'em).
-Without A Paddle.
-The Master Of Disguise.:eek:
(As comedies, Bigalow & Paddle provide a laugh-thats all i can say there.)

-Numb.;wrote and directed.
-Les Boys.;wrote and directed.
Haven't heard of these(not sure i want to)
-There's a few more not worth mention here.

Evolving Pictures' third film Mad Monster Party(in production) is being written by Joey Murphy, Joel Pardee- Cop this:
These guys write & produce TV shows, e.g.Desperate Housewives, Cybill.

I mean, should we be worried? Sounds like this company specialise in comedies, as for their 'fav. writer', I've laughed at 2 of his movies, haven't heard of the rest.
The film being made(another comedy) has Desperate Housewives writer/producers on board.
For our collective sanity, this can't be the same production company doing the webpage, if so, thats why it hasn't changed in over two years-they are way out of their element. For the first time ever I hope the movie plans fail, with this co. anyway.:mad:

[Erudite Ed]

You can check the domain details - called a WHOIS lookup here:
http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/results.jsp?domain=necroscopethemovie.com

If you look at the second film it is actually a 20 minute short - some good actors in it though...

I liked the master of disguise and deuce bigalow, but like you say if they specialise in comedies and TV shows then what the hell are they doing buying the rights to a horror???

[Envy_the_Homunculi]

If it was me Peter Jackson would be the best canidate to direct it but he would need a good producer and well known producer maybe Steven Spielburg or George Lucas...

On top of that you need good actors to play the parts for instance...

Young Harry: How bout the same guy who plays Harry Potter
Boris Dragosani: How bout Jeromy Irons
20's Harry: Could be anyone

[matman72]

I agree 200% with Peter Jackson but Daniel Ratcliffe(potter) is too typecast now, it's a shame, he's pretty good, besides they've agreed to do the entire series. Could be tied up for a while, Deathly hallows isn't out until July 22(?), or thereabouts. Maybe he can play the older Harry Keogh by then.:rolleyes:

[Ilya Sul]

Think Irons is a little bit too old to play Dragosani, because he was barely thirty when he became Thibors egg son.

[pheral]

All who I know who have read the books have fallen in love with them. I hope whoever has a say in a film reads the books and develops a similar love. It would be a real shame to spoil the books with the film. The harry potter films tried hard and while being good just could not capture the essence of the books. In my view anything that comes even half close to the spirit of the necroscope books is going to be great.

[soul]

The trouble is it would be very good or very bad. The movie being really rubbish is what bothers me. having said that anyone who`s read. Interview with the vampire:( will no that the books not that great. yet the film was not a bad movie.

[Chris Banks]

Just hope it's dark - very dark and claustrophobic!! :eek::D

[sdkdmd]

Just hope it's dark - very dark and claustrophobic!! :eek::D

Will we still be able to see and if it's that dark don't get close to me. Stay back.

[Markus]

I'd like the see a cross between "silent hill" "V for vendetta" and hellraiser

but that would most likely send half the population to the looney bin ......well i guy can dream i guess

[Chris Banks]

Looney bins are cool!!;)

[posem]

whatever u say chris, it just better be good IF they make it, nebody watched heroes? i suppose it wud be cool if they made the books in 1 hour tv parts like these new tv drama things, (lost, heroes, ect).

btw i got a D in my german gcse, not bad for doing it 2 years early

[Chris Banks]

whatever u say chris, it just better be good IF they make it, nebody watched heroes? i suppose it wud be cool if they made the books in 1 hour tv parts like these new tv drama things, (lost, heroes, ect).

btw i got a D in my german gcse, not bad for doing it 2 years early

Ausgezeichnet, junge!!:D Well done.
Not sure about the 1 hour TV dooberys though!!:(

[Silky]

Hi All,

Glenn Hetrick, who owns Optic Nerve Special Effects Company, is doing the fx on Heroes. We just saw him on Heroes Unmasked.

Glenn has been in touch with us for years wanting to get Necroscope into film. It was Glenn that found Evolving and since then the movie has been optioned for years. In fact, the option runs out this month and we'll have to see what happens then.

[posem]

if Glenn Hetrick wants to do it and he is pretty high up in the order of the heroes management stuff, (cos special effects is one of the main things on heroes so he must be one of the top ppl).

cudn't u ask him if he could get in touch with the ppl that do heroes and ask em if they wanna do this.

it could be like they do a pilot episode and then see where it goes. cos if heroes got over 4 mill ppl on its pilot ep, imagine how many more wud watch it with vampires and stuff.

also, who plays peter petrelli in heroes? i can sort of see him as harry, possibly the younger one cos he looks around the "23's" age.

just an idea, though they might be more willing to make it if you have some money? i dont no whether u have ne funding or nething already, but cudn't u make like necroscope t shirts and stuff. just random junk advertising the film because most gullible ppl wud buy em then. or if u sign copies of brian's books and ebay em or sumt, just raise some money and say like, that ur willing to use that to finance it a bit. they cud be more swayed.

thats what my friend did when he made troops, look it up on youtube, its a star wars thing. he sold junk at my school and over the net advertising it and he made tons. those storm trooper costumes alone are worth a bit and he paid his uncle's and cousins to be in it. and he did all that just by selling some stuff over the net and the film has been a big hit on youtube.

just a few ideas..

[Silky]

Well, we are supposed to be meeting Glenn at the signing in Vegas so I'm sure there will be lots of things discussed then. We'll keep you all informed of any happenings or not.;)

[Bawslev]

I am going to use my musician influences, to
contact friends of the band, TOOL,
to tell them the importance of this movie,
the fact that it has the potential to be the greatest movie series of all time,
and request them to contact this movie company,
and offer assistance!

MWAHAHAHAHA!

[Lady Anne]

It's been a long time since I posted so bear with me if I am slightly ignorant. I have been reading, actually skimming over this thread, and the one thing that hasn't been brought up yet, unless I missed it, is whether with the amount of violence that the Wamphyri cause and how graphic it would have to be to get the story right, would the movies still be made and if they were made how would the violence be dealt with?

I would love to see these books in film, but without the Wamphyri being as violent as they are would it be the same and would it be any good?

Then after the violence is taken care of the sex comes next. Here in America this movie would be chopped to bits or it would be given an NC-17 rating which is one under X. And if I remember correctly some of those sex scenes would be considered way, way, way over the line and would definitely be on the high XXX scale.

I love these books and as most, if not all of you, recommend these books constantly. Putting them in film would be, I think, difficult. If it happens, which I hope it does, I will be the first in line to see it and hope it turns out spectacularly.

Life is like a box of chocolates...holds a new meaning when you're Wamphri!!

[joeann2005]

can u imagine them trying to put into pictures the scene with harry & karen having sex???
oh dear lol :)

[matman72]

I can imagine it, but I cant imagine them doing much more than the generalized 'two bodies together', if they even go there at all. If they do it would be like every other scene you see, unlikely we'll see the passion, frenzy and ..err...positions we visualize when reading it.
Maybe they can do a XXX porno themed on it:eek::D:grin:. mmmm thats an idea:grin:

[posem]

that sounds kinda fun matt, how about not just that though, but like cos they are vampires there is a lot of fighting and lust and domination going about in the sex. because the vampires fight and like to dominate, so we can have harry riding karen and then she starts biting him and he is taking it as a sex act, then they start at it again on their backs with harry on top and karen kicks him off (because she is a dominent vampire so she wants to be on top) and harry goes flying through a wall, then karen leaps on top and it starts up again. and it could like, trash the whole top floor of the stack. because thats what they do partly in the book.

[matman72]

:D:grin:now THATS pretty damn funny, would be good to see

[vannerclast]

Well the CGI stuff should be really inexpensive to do, If they use Vue6 for the landscapes they'll have no probs creating any world they wish; Starside/Sunside should look great at no earth shattering costs to the studios. Not an expensive piece of kit either. The best software for them to use to create creatures would probably be Zbrush, version 2, I believe, is only approximately 200 quid for professional use. This they used on Underworld 2 to create the Vampire king.

[vannerclast]

And please don't let them cast Hugh Grant as any character within the Necroscope movie.

[posem]

lol. screw necroscope, i wud hunt the bugger down myself and slaughter him if they cast hugh grant.

and whoever let hime ever onto the set wud be next on my list.

had a wkd bday 2day everyone, had to go school :( got a new comp, really great it is. also i found out i won the science fair with my crossbow (what else was i gonna make?) happy birthday also to whoever else's birthday it is, sorry i dont no ur name but im too lazy to go look, all i no is im sharing it with sum1 else on here.

[Silver]

Very deffinately off topic there P, but as it was your birthday I'll let you off! Glad you had a good day.

Back on topic, I don't think that the violence or the sex will be a problem. There are so many films out there already with ridiculous amounts of violence in them I really don't think it'll be any worse than some of those. Of course it'll have to have a strong certificate but I think we are all expecting that anyway.

If you think about it the violence in the first Necroscope isn't actually that bad anyway. The fight at the end is mostly explosions and we've seen fights with zombies before so that should be ok. The scenes with Dragosani "working" are very graphic but if they're done tastefully, showing it in flashes or from behind Dragosani with shadows so all you see is him reaching in the body and pulling something out, you know what it is by the shape but you can't really make much of it out. I think that would sail through the sensors.

Also, in the first Necroscope there aren't any outrageous sex scenes, or Wamphiri fighting or having sex with each other so initially that really won't be an issue.

I don't know anything for sure but in my opinion they won't go into the vampire world at all, it'll be the first book or maybe the first and second, though I'd prefer the first one on it's own.

[Goth Girl]

Ha! It'd one helluva long film if it went right through to the Vampire World books!

[Erudite Ed]

I was just on imdb and I stumbled across Sam Raimi's (Evil Dead, Spiderman) new movie 30 Days of Night - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0389722/. It's about vampires invading a town in Alaska as it is plunged into darkness for a month with it being above the arctic circle...

So hopefully if this movie is sucessful then maybe Hollywood will start looking at investing in other vampire-based movies and help get the ball rolling with this one. Having the FX guys from Heroes will add some extra kudos to the project too - their FX in Heroes is amazing! :D

I re-read the fisrt Necroscope book last month (between the two Lost Years books), there is plenty in there for a complete movie so I hope they don't decide to merge the series together like they did with Queen of the Damned.

As for the sex and violence - there was not a lot of that going on in the first book anyway so I don't see it being a problem. Its easy enough to pan away to a roaring log fire while they "get down to business" and the mind always imagines a lot worse than what you actually see on the screen. ;)

Oh and one more thing (off topic), how about a Necroscope T-shirt with "B.J. is Innocent.. (isn't she)?" on the back? :p

[posem]

sorry for the off topic.

not just that vampire movie above, but check out the remake of i am legend being releashed by will smith late december/early february. not just that aswell but the new resy evil wud possibly boost the want for gore and horror, or might inspire some hollywood ppl to make a new, in ur face horror film, ya never know if sum1 makes the first necroscope film it might make a whole new genre of horror.

a teensie bit off topic here but it is sort of to do with the film.

could we set up a sort of petition asking brian and silky to advertise necroscope merchandise? they could sell t-shirts with necroscope insignias or just things advertising the film with necroscope plastered on them, it might cost a lil bit to start with but if they charge the right price then they could earn double or triple in return.

http://www.tshirtstudio.com/

a lil site i found where u can make ur own shirt online and design whatever u want on it, that's just a basic idea but ya get what i mean, brian and silky could earn yet more money through this and use it to sort of persuade the hollywood types that we can go big budget.

[Erudite Ed]

Have a look around the site posem, I'm sure that I saw some Necroscope T-shirts for sale somewhere on here...

[matman72]

I seem to recall an old post by Silky(i think) concerning the problems with expenditure, copyright etc. with trying to get T-shirts circulated. I'm not sure, but it rings a bell. I wouldn't know where to find it though. If you run a search on the archives with Tshirt" as a keyword you might find it, with some persistence--good luck:)

[Ilya Sul]

Haha...Join the great majority but not yet..or so? :D

[matman72]

Thats them...there was some on ebay not long ago

[Silver]

They did sell some tshirts and baseball caps a while ago but I don't think they are available anymore and it had nothing to do with the movie.

We should know more soon, as Silky said they're having a meeting with the people who bought the option last time and they've already renewed it once so I think that shows they are definitely interested.

[rancidsavage]

Well they at least have a website devoted to the movie, it's in construction but it is a sign of hope!?

www.necroscopethemovie.com

[Ilya Sul]

It is under construction....well...from time immemorial

[posem]

hey yall

havent been on much lately, quite a lot o stuff been happenin so havent had chance, i think it started sort of around 5 weeks ago where i had lotsa stress from hmwk and coursework and i just collapsed from exhaustion while walking down the stairs and woke up in hospital a week later with a fractured rib.

not fun but ya no, so got ze hmwk done, and coursework so thats outta way, and in hospital i had a chance to read my whole collection of lumley's books. its fun when u leave em for ages then come back to em.

i remember when i first read salem's lot by stephen king, it was under the duvet covers with a torchlight and it scared me that much i hid it away and brought out necroscope for comfort, thats slightly balmy considering necroscope is more horrifying but i suppose it is good.



depending on who plays harry keogh, do you think it wud be good to have a sort of energetic character, say we had someone really bouncy and serine and stuff, at the start of the second book when he has discouvered mostly the full extent of his powers we cud start off by a sort fof overhead shot of the paris skyline, then the camera does a star wars swoop and it focuses on ze tower, and you see a human figure hanging from the top of it, clinging on by arm and leg, swinging out over oblivion, he looks around sort of, surveiling the skyline, and we see a sort of flyig shape in the distance (with an over the shoulder shot seeing what harry see's), and he just dives like a swimmer off the top of the tower disappearing halfway through the shot, and you see him reappear on the top of a building.

the next bit i sort of had an idea i stole from spiderman 1, where peter parker discovers he can climb walls, harry appears on a rooftop running along, so u see him from the side, and a few roofs over you see the vampire, sort of flying, sort of running, and harry sort of glances at him nwo and then. as he reaches the end of the building he jumps out into space disappearing and appearing on the next building over, and then we see him pull like a gun out (sort of stole this bit from league of extraordinary gentleman with mr hyde chase) and stars shooting sideways at the vampire, carrying on shooting and jumping over the builidings, he eventually veers off diagonally appearing a few metres infront of the vampire, and now we see through the vampires eyes, the camera jumps up, flying at harry, guns blasting, smoke emmiting from the end. and then just as you think harry is gonna be dead the camera switches to his view point

its a sort of shot from behind harry on the floor making him seem imposing and large, the vamp flys at him with an arm streched backwards as if he's going to sweep him away, and at the last minute a bullet hits the vamp in a sort of good place and he twitches and falls to the side, harry then pulls out a knife and sets to work on him slashing mercilesly while the vamp writhes in pain. he then disappears and while he does the vamp gets up slowly, limping. harry appears again with a kerosene bottle and spreads it around the vamp in a circle, bottle in one hand, gun in the other to ward vamp away, still letting off shots. then when the circle is complete he pulls out a match, the camera focuses on it being lit, and it tracks the matches path through the air in slow motion, the match revolving as it falls. it then hits the floor and oil patch, the camera then follows the path of the flame as it licks around the circle, with he camera sort of facing inwards looking at the vamp but still following the flame, the whole circle lights up and the vamp crys out, he tries to jump but harry cracks the top of the lid off the kerosene bottle, disappears and then the bottle falls out of the air above the vamps head, it leacks all over it flowing into every open orifice and covering it, a match is then dropped and an voerhead shot is shown as the vamp lights up.

we see a shot about 10 metres away from the inferno, harry steps out of nowhere, reloads the gun and atches the fire die away. the camera zooms out from him out over the skyline of paris, past the tower continuously zooming out until u can see most of the city, right in the middle, a slight dot or a bit bigger is a flickering flame, which we no as we zoomed out from it is the inferno, the screen then fades out and slowly into the next scene.



this is just an idea i had for the start of the second film, u may not like it because it doesnt follow any of the plotline, but i was thinking it wud only be abou 5-10 mins at most, with music playing in background, music i imagine would go best wiht this is a song from a bond film called explosive, if u download it in some places it is rather slow but if u download the bond version which says remix it has the right tempo and brutal violins that would make this scene put across the harsh point that it has.

[Silver]

Quite right Posem, I don't think I would like that! Very well thought out but it sounds exactly like the type of suped up hollywood relying too much on effects type of film that I don't think would work best for Necroscope.

It's not just that it's not part of the plot, it's also really not in keeping with Harry's personallity style.

Hope your ribs better though!

[posem]

thanks silver ;) im on crutches now, hobbling round everywhere 0_o

true, it does sound very hollywood cgi, but we have to think about the balance, if we want to get the film across in the right way to today's audiences. the possible audience could range from early teens to the elderly, it needs to be taken into consideration that older viewers might prefer the old action no cgi all explosive stuff that made films like psycho and the old james bond films great

but also it needs to be taken into consideration about todays teens (my lot), most films nowadays are heavily cgi'd, beowulf, the golden compass, the second was a success and the first was a flop, the right balance of both is needed. the amount of real life acting and cgi was a great balance in lord of the rings, prehaps that could be the sort of way necroscope could go?

[Llamedos]

Beowolf????

Saw this in 3D at pic's last Sat.
Sorry, but not that good IMHO...
3D effect best I seen so far, but the film?

Necroscope the film. British writer, perchance a British director

28 days later, 28 weeks later spring to mind. Instant Classics.

Oh, yeah, glad to hear you feeling better Posem. Sorry it was last bit on post and an edit to boot

[Ilya Sul]

Errr...There are many videogame cutscenes rivaling Beowulf :D

[Amarfa]

No offense posem, but I agree with silver.
Anyways, I LOVE the gravitas of Hugh Lorrie. (house). He's a brit, he's got the "dark avenger" deal written all over him, he's a little wild, and he's got the complexity and stamina to pull off Harry as a human AND a vampire. In my opinion, Jeremy Irons would make an excellent Faethor(whom I have the hots for...can't explain it really). That Die Hard franchise movie he was in was only good because of him. Can't you just imagine that slick voice overdubbing historical battles and lurid sex? MMMMM......

[Amarfa]

aaahhhh i've been thinking about it too much!!!! lol I think the movie should start with a black void (yes, as many movies do) .We see a little gold light in the center of the screen and it burns away the blackness as the camera does a closeup on Alec Kyle (pulling his hair out, wearing a corny polyester 70's suit and jacket ) in the office. We can see his breath in the early morning computer light and the steam from the coffee as he pulls out a file (i know it's the book verbatim but cut me some slack!) and opens it. He bangs the intercom on the desk and says, "get the damned heat fixed, will ya?" (only british). Then he looks straight ahead (at the audience) and the cigarette in his mouth falls out and he pushes back his chair and falls over (in a serious way). The camera changes to view the side of the desk, and we see kyle scrabbling for his cigarette and gets back up, and backs himself against the window blinds (because i always imagine a window right behind the desk in the DO's office) and as we close up on his face, so does what is frightening him-nose first, a blue face comes into view and the mouth says in a friendly way,"Have a seat. We've got a lot to discuss." the scene breaks for titles and overture (by Tool). Towards the end of the overture, we see a couple ice skating on a little pond fed by a stream in a stand of trees. Every so often, we can see a sprawling house by a larger river in the distance. We see flashes of joy on the woman's face, between flashes of a beautiful ice dance, and the man's eyes narrowing. We see a flash of her face again, with a look of horror, and hear a splash.Now the scene swtiches to underwater, and we see little more than thrashing water, a hand bloodily scraping at the ice, and then the shadow of a body floating and settling next to a submerged tree root. We hear a voice say, "harry! Harry!", and the screen changes to blur, then focuses on a classroom scene. We see harry with his hand bolt upright. The teacher says something like, "What's wrong with you, you nincompoop? Why'd you raise your hand if you're not going to answer the question? What's *insert 5th grade math question here*?" (only british) and the scene progresses etc etc. They go outside to the beach, and the scene progresses verbatim as the book.


more later tired must sleep

[Erudite Ed]

You missed out Chapter 1 of the first book, with Dragosani doing his necromancy - that scene should be after the title sequence. :p

Anyway, I think I'd like to see more special effects seeing as the guy from Heroes is doing them! They don't need to be something that costs millions and sell the movie, they just need to be subtle like they are in heroes when Claire does her regeneration - the fact that you can't really notice them makes them all the more realistic.

I'm reading Necroscope III again at the moment - the saga really starts to gain momentum with this book and has a bit of everything. I wonder if for the movie they merge books I & II or just drop book II and go straight to book III for the second movie.

[Amarfa]

Book II has some of the greatest moments, tho....i mean, yulian's family, the seductions of his aunt, mother, and cousin, that dog....i'm sorry, but the dog is cool and we can't ax the dog! :D And yulian as a child...so coool....pointy teeth....How could we miss the secret death on the hills and the "probe"? lol

[matman72]

Wamphyri was one of the hardest of the series to get thru for me. I must say on rereading it this year, I found it a better read, but it still didn't have the 'unputdownability' of the others. Don't know what it is about it, I still enjoyed it though, just not as much.
Hopefully there won't be as much time spent on book 1,2, although with book1 it won't be possible to leave anything out if going for a saga-the entire book(well most of it) is just about setting the scene for the rest of the epic.

[Mr Moogly]

Is someone going to recognize this series as the potential money-generating machine that it could be?! I find it hard to believe that they (Hollywood) could MANGLE a perfectly good storyline that was '30 Days of Night' to produce the wretched film that was released, and not even show an inkling of serious interest in the Necroscope series. This is not to say that I would like a major studio to come along and water-down the Necroscope series into a lackluster, inferior story. But rather that I find it mind-boggling that a series which contains elements of psychic\ESPers, vampires, and some gratuitous sex thrown in NOT worthy of translation onto the screen, big OR small. For christsake, BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER had most of these elements, and it started as a cheesy movie that evolved into a great TV show! And even more of an insult, we have straight-to-video masterpieces such as 'Mansquito' getting made and getting air-time on cable-networks over here on the Sci-Fi channel.
Give us something. Maybe one of those 6-part, 2 hour installment movies that could run over a major cable-network like Showtime or HBO. At least that way it could still be as violent and sexy as it wanted, and keep all if not most of the elements of the original story.
I tell ya, if I had a few million just lying around, I'd fork over the dough to make sure this project turned out right!


So, who's got a few bucks they could loan me?

- Moogly :|

[Bite me]

Ya wouldn't really need a couple million to do a decent rendition, just a whole lot of time and patience: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KO6ZuC2HDY

Here's a Star Wars fan-flick trailer "Dark Resurrection" that looks so bad-ass that I'd learn Italian just to watch it.

[braindead]

i think that maybe so many of the necroscope i deas have already been stolen to make other films it may be to late?
ex:
the new film out called ( jumper) look it up
heros( so the more of it i watched i thought the writers have clearly dear the necroscope books)
underworld
to be honest the list goes on....
of films that in some way seem to have gone used to whole necroscope saga as a source( excuse the pun) of idea's.

on a side not i was watching a christian bale movie the other day and i thought, He would make a perfect harry keogh.( for all films made after book 1)
what do you all think???
maybe jude law as the first harry in the first film

[Reich]

Personally I just don't see a quality movie coming out of a direct interpretation of the books. I feel there would be much more promise in an e-branch based series with an first season arc through Dragosani and introducing Bodescu (ultimately, an arc based on Thibor Ferenczy).

Harry Keogh is of course in the centre of it all, but he needs to be developed over a longer period of time on screen. A movie lasting 120 minutes would look something like this *Dragosani plays around with some internal organs* *I'm Harry Keogh, Boo* *deadspeak*, *flashbacks*, *deadspeak*, *Dragosani*, *more deadspeak*, *more dragosani*, *Harry Keogh on Ice* *Dead Mother kills stepfather*, *Dragosani, Batu* *deadspeak* *deadspeak* *Mobius* *teleport* *dragosani killing a bunch of people* *teleport* *raise dead warriors* *boom* *teleport* *boom* *lots of screaming and pieces of bone* *squish* *ugh, I can't feel my legs, better make a door and crawl through it* *I'm going to become my own daddy!.. I think...* *The End*".

I feel this would result in a movie much like Catwoman with blood, guts, and rotting flesh :( none of us want that sort of flop to happen to a guy like Harry...

I think a 14-16 episodes of 45 minutes would cover the first book and a bit of the second, this would make a Harry an audience could immerse themselves in, instead of a movie amounting to "Young man looking a bit like Harry Potter gets involved with a sort of Spooky MI6/CIA, develops a severe form of schizophrenia, then teleports around killing creepy Russian guys with his deceased fan club".

So.. Movie? or Series? ;)

[morticiadesadist]

Jude Law as Harry Keogh, an interesting thought but i wonder if he'll have the type of character needed to pull Harry off, myself i think it would be hard work to find an actor that would be a great Harry Keogh

[Erudite Ed]

So.. Movie? or Series? ;)

I'd have to place both feet firmly in the movie camp because I am fed up of getting into a new TV series only to find out that the networks have cancelled it 1/2 way through due to poor ratings!

Anyone remember the 90's BBC series Ultraviolet? The plot revolved around an agency setup by the Catholic church to capture vampires and stop them from taking over. They had these cool guns that fired liquid UV and had a TV on them instead of a scope because the vamps didn't show up on them. 6-8 episodes later and it was taken off the air never to return... :mad:

There are a couple of TV series running at the moment revolving around vampires anyway. Blood Ties is terrible and I think has been cancelled, there is also a new series called Moonlight where the central character is a detective who is also a vampire - sound familiar?

Personally, I'd like to see a TV series based on some of the Cthulthu Mythos stories that Brian has done instead. Maybe a modern version of the Lost World where characters are taken from Earth by Ithiqua and dumped on a distant planet to fend for themselves and do battle with his worshippers. Or maybe a series based on the Dreamlands with coma patients having to resolve some kind of mystery so they can wake up...

If anyone works in TV and is interested in making any of these shows, you can contact me via my agent! :p

[matman72]

This reminds me of watching Nightmares & Dreamscapes the other day. One episode I thought was based on the Dark Tower at first but as it went on names like Yog-Sothoth, Rl'yeh were popping up on factory signs. Anyway it made me yearn for a great, morbid, dark & scary series such as "Tales of The Cthulhu Mythos based on the fictional works of Brian Lumley".
Hows that sound??
Giving up on Necroscope myself(until something is set in stone)

This gives me an idea. . .

[Erudite Ed]

Anyway it made me yearn for a great, morbid, dark & scary series such as "Tales of The Cthulhu Mythos based on the fictional works of Brian Lumley".
Hows that sound??

Sounds great! If its good enough for Stephen King then why not? I started down the dark path with him (before I even knew he was influenced by Lovecraft), Dean R. Koontz and James Herbert when I was a kid but I found that the quality of the stories was very inconsistant (probably because they are under so much pressure from their publishers to get their stuff out there). The last few years I've focused on mainly Cthulthu Mythos related books after reading nearly all of of H.P. Lovecrafts stories and a few other "classic" gothic authors like Poe and Le Fanu.

I'm back reading Brian now as I got "Beneath the moors and darker Places" for my birthday last month and I'm (re)reading the first Necroscope books again. I've still not got around to reading the last of the series from E-branch onwards but they are in the queue! The only other author I've read recently is Ramsey Campbell who I have to support really as he lives in the same town as me - I read a collection of his short stories before Christmas and I have to admit some of his stories are really quite disturbing, especially when I know some of the local places that he used as influences for his stories! :eek:

Anyway, I'm really getting way off topic here - now I have upgraded to the rank of the Elite I thought I'd throw in a bit more info. about me but now I'm just starting to ramble on...

The thing is, that once you read enough of this stuff you start to see (or think you see) Cthulthu Mythos related concepts everywhere. For example, I was certain that the Island in Lost was going to be something to do with the Mythos until I read the Mysterious Island by Jules Verne. ;)

[esoper]

Although I would love to watch a necroscope movie, I would sure hate to see them butcher it!! So Im kind of up in the air about the whole thing, I just dont know if hollywood could do the necroscope let alone the wamphyri justice!! If they do make this movie lets hope they do a outstanding job!!!

[Ilya Sul]

Although I would love to watch a necroscope movie, I would sure hate to see them butcher it!! So Im kind of up in the air about the whole thing, I just dont know if hollywood could do the necroscope let alone the wamphyri justice!! If they do make this movie lets hope they do a outstanding job!!!

I posted exactly the same thoughts some months ago.
Quotation: "but I am concerned that they can neither do the Wamphyri justice nor Continuum nor anything else"

I know how you feel. :D

[morticiadesadist]

i don't think they could pull it off really, i hope i'm wrong & pleasantly surprised when i do eventually see the film & if they make it, for instance look at Stephen King's the stand it was a great book but the mini series was absolutely pant's so i'm afraid that the necroscope may end up the same way although i really do hope it doesn't

[posem]

what i hope is that they keep putting it back and putting it back,

by then i would have achieved all my high grades in media and ict both in gcse and a level,
if they put it off long enough i can then go on to do film production,editing and creation at uni.

then i can go to hollywood, pitch em necro myself and dazzle em with all ym qualifications and then hire you lot so we can actually make the film something WE want.

[darkstar]

I really and truly belive there needs to be a whole series done not just a single movie that would'nt cover even part of the story. Not that I would'nt go see it cause I would even if its just to see how wrong they got it!! Before I saw this website I was saying to my old man that the Necroscope books needed to be at least made into a miniseries!!

[Möbius]

A movie would be awesome, it would be one of the best vampire movies that I've seen in a while. I do however wonder about how the movies will turn out when compared with the books, and my biggest fear is that they don't stay true to the books.
The books do contain violence, sex, nudity and blood (after all, the blood is life:cool:), and with today's strict "rules" when it comes to making films then i wonder how the movie(s) are going to get through a censorship board:p

A movie, can't wait for it:D
It will surly be the best vampire film in ages:D

Sincerely
Möbius

[pUnKtUaTe]

it would be very easy for a good director to do the Necroscope do a lil background when he was growing up and going to school having the drill instructor teach him some hand to hand and stuff it would be cool if they could get sam raimi to do it or guilerrmo del toro hell if they can keep it going do like they have done with the harry potter books and switch the director every couple movies but they are going to need a solid base to get it going if this gets turned to $^% i will use the mobius strip to teleport in their house and kick their @$$

[Marko]

I'm not totally opposed to the idea of a Necroscope movie. No matter how much they butcher it, it won't effect how I feel about the novels.

I think it would be very dfficult series to adapt. You would need a massive budget, and given that the saga is move of cult thing than a global phenomenon, it would probably be difficult to get that kind of funding behind it.

[Amarfa]

I just saw a trailer on tv last night for a movie called "Jumper". Yeah. He teleports. Through the air. Doing cool stunts. Admittedly, it appears to be more like Nightcrawler in Xmen, but still.

My first Lumley book was The Last Aerie. So I was totally and completely just drowned in everything that happened, and it is still my most favoritest book of all time. There should definitely be a movie.

I don't like the idea of splitting up the books into episodes and worrying about budget, because if it's worth doing, it's worth doing right and going George Lucas on it. Maybe that's who you should give it to; George Lucas. Yeah i know the last 3 star wars movies sucked, but hey, the first three DIDN'T! George Lucas should produce, and ridley scott should direct. Because i just saw bladerunner, and that is exactly the feeling, the gritty environment i would love to see in a Necroscope movie! I wish i had the skill at animation to create an opening title and stuff, and i wish i didn't have add so i could make up my own screenplay and stuff.

[Necroscope22]

I think Necroscope should be left alone. I'm a great movie fan but I just don't think justice would be done for the Necroscope series. It would be altered to much thus taking away something from the whole. Its by far one of the most imaginative series of books I've ever read and they could never portray what the imagination can invisige in a series of Films.

we will have to wait and see.

Nec

[Ilya Sul]

I think Necroscope should be left alone. I'm a great movie fan but I just don't think justice would be done for the Necroscope series. It would be altered to much thus taking away something from the whole. Its by far one of the most imaginative series of books I've ever read and they could never portray what the imagination can invisige in a series of Films.

we will have to wait and see.

Nec

Word :D

[Chris Banks]

'Jumper'? Seen it? Bunch of arse. Nuff said. Talk about celluloid plagiarism!!:mad:

[taryn-vee]

i never compare movies to books as they are never in the same league ... but i do enjoy movie adaptations if i remove the book from my mind when watching them...

i mean narnia was great as a movie, however the books were fab! and LOTR too...

i wonder how the world would react to a different type of vamp ... ?

[Silver]

I think the movie should be made whether it lives up to expectation or not simply because it will get more people into the books. Think of Lord of the Rings for example, how many books were sold after people had seen the movies - even those who didn't like the movies! I've already seen I Am Legend re-released on the bookshelves with Will Smith's mug all over the cover.

All I'm saying is that if it's true to the story it should be a great movie, but even if it's not it will introduce more people to the books who might not have picked them up otherwise so although we'll probably think it's rubish it'll still be a good thing. Also Brian's version of a vampire is original and so far, hasn't been stolen as far as I can tell. So it should still be a new concept to those who haven't read his books and I think that'll be a major talking point which will encourage more people to see it.

[ink]

i am fairly new to this site in the sense that i havnt posted any comments ect before, but i must agree with those of you who say itll never match the books. ive read every book so far more than a few times and feel theres just too much in there to put on a screen, the wamphyri n continuum would be something special to see but what about the history of it all? thats what makes these books so special, its said that LOTR feels like it couldve happened but compared to the necroscope it has nothing, also to those of you who mentioned "jumper"..............on seeing the clips i immediatly thought of harry keogh, it didnt feel like an original concept.

[Duck!]

I think the movie should be made whether it lives up to expectation or not simply because it will get more people into the books. Think of Lord of the Rings for example, how many books were sold after people had seen the movies - even those who didn't like the movies! I've already seen I Am Legend re-released on the bookshelves with Will Smith's mug all over the cover.

All I'm saying is that if it's true to the story it should be a great movie, but even if it's not it will introduce more people to the books who might not have picked them up otherwise so although we'll probably think it's rubish it'll still be a good thing. Also Brian's version of a vampire is original and so far, hasn't been stolen as far as I can tell. So it should still be a new concept to those who haven't read his books and I think that'll be a major talking point which will encourage more people to see it.

It would be a long movie ... but totally agree.

[brianlynchmob]

Also, in the first Necroscope there aren't any outrageous sex scenes, or Wamphiri fighting or having sex with each other so initially that really won't be an issue.




well I can think of one flashback sceene that would never make it into the movie. but before I get there, there was 5 sex sceenes in the book. between sarge & the other teacher, harry and his wife on the beech, dragonsani and the farmers daughter (whatever happened there left her bruised) and his dragonsani's parents (not really worthy of a sceene in the movie, but it was mentioned).




the one they'll cut will be where dragansani is at his aunts house and he see's her and her 2 underage daughters having sex with some guy. Then the aunt sends the kids up to seduce him.

[Silver]

I said outrageous sex scenes, and I wouldn't class Segeant Lane, Harry's or Dragosani's parents as outrageous, and Dragosani's isn't discribed in enough detail to be that graphic.

You are right about his aunt and cousins though, I'd forgotten about that one but as long as it's done carefully I do still think that it could be included without it being too graphic for an 18 certificate. It would probably include clever lighting and camera angles

[brianlynchmob]

I said outrageous sex scenes, and I wouldn't class Segeant Lane, Harry's or Dragosani's parents as outrageous, and Dragosani's isn't discribed in enough detail to be that graphic.

You are right about his aunt and cousins though, I'd forgotten about that one but as long as it's done carefully I do still think that it could be included without it being too graphic for an 18 certificate. It would probably include clever lighting and camera angles

well if its filmed in the US I don't think they'll put that scene in at all, due to all the legal restrictions. They almost banned and removed from the shelves "fast times at ridgemont high" because one of the girls that showed some skin said she was 15 in the movie.

But I feel it helps show how two people growing up with similar abilities can turn out so drastically different. Harry see's the loving act, and dragosani see's the lustful act.

[hellrot]

i think that dragosani is repulsed by the whole aspect of sex and in fact its thibors lust that drives him when he is with the girl it was the first time dragosani gave control to thibor and the only time i know of that he ever had sex. but i get what your saying how two different people can see the same thing at opposite sides.

[Ilya Sul]

As far as I recall, Dragosani was said to have had Sex after his first time, but always in a cold and brutal manner....

[Obedient Gypsy]

I haven't been to this site in a long time, and this may be off topic for a second...I live in the U.S. and with a strong rating I think the movie could get away with 99% of every graphic rape or murder or whatever no problem. I saw 30 days of night because i own pretty much all the graphic novels(which are great btw, get em!!), and the movie was definitely way way off course from the book but i still loved the movie, it just wasnt a representation of the book, well maybe like 10% of it was the same. I just re-read all of these posts on this thread to update myself on the happenings here, took a while but it was worth it. I think a series would be pretty cool but im in it for the movie. right now im on the last aerie, but i havent picked it back up in some time now. Its still my first time through all the books. I usually buy 3 at a time so I dont finish one book and then get withdrawls cos I havent another to continue the storie with. I think the vampire world books so far are the longest and somewhat more boring than the others, just my opinion, but they still rock!! I cant wait until I finished the whole series all the way through the touch and start over again!!!

[twisted_illusions]

Haha :D maybe we should open a donationpot....
If we started a "donationpot" I'd definitely try to pitch in. In fact when I was in seventh grade it was my dream to become a director and then a few years later I read the Necroscope books and I was all lyk OMG :eek: I HAVE to turn this series into movies but if somebody is already thinkin about makin it.... perfect! less work for me. :)

[Ilya Sul]

Huh something has changed about the website. It is now completely down. What a mess...hope they will come up with something before Duke Nukem Forever is released :D sorry I couldn't resist..

[ToddAlmighty]

I would rather see it not made than made poorly and/or with a less than perfect director, this isn't something just anyone can tackle.

[Ilya Sul]

Ah yes, my thoughts...
It would break my heart to see so much potential getting wasted.

[leezeebub]

we should make it ourselves, it would be rubbish but it would also be a lot of fun :-P

[hellrot]

lol now there is a thought the man with "balls of steel" goin up against one of the whampyri hmmm wonder how that would end up

[sirbob]

One thing you have to think about is that the small firm may of bought the rights in hope of it being seen as a LotR type setup and then selling them on to make aload of money out of nothing. I mean with the insight and sending the book in the right directions they must be able to get someone special involved, the only thing is the extreme violence and perversions in the book may have to be taken out :(

[wilson_92]

i think that they could keep the violence in and the perversion to a degree if they actually sat down and thought it out like dragosani's little interview in the chateu bronisty when he used the chair leg, some camera angles and cuts would allow the mind to fill in the blanks and keep the gore. They really should actually put thought into it though imagine brad pitt as dragosani, i really wish they would actually do somethin to say hey look we're actually doin this lol

[Ilya Sul]

Yeah, Brad Pitt, totally Szgany. :D

[Serenity]

I have always wanted these books to be movies, but where to start? I think the E-Branch series would be a good starting point. It would bring people up to speed and they could do a Star Wars type deal with prequels and such. Start at the end and work toward the beginning? I think Jeremy Irons would be a fantastic Malinari.

[Silver]

Please don't wish the curse of Star Wars on it! I can imagine it now, the E-Branch ones do really really well, then years later the Necroscope ones get made and flop disasterously in the cinema!

[Serenity]

Yeah Star Wars tanked, but this is a billion times better series.

[Serenity]

And also anywhere you start in Harry's exploits, you get sucked in and it becomes almost obsession. I started with The Source and had to read the entire saga after that. Besides some people have said Harry is to deep to develope in one movie, maybe his dart heirs would help to develope him so when the first comes out people will already have a grasp on him. Jake learns and grows without knowing Harry personally so why couldn't an audience?

[Nyarlathotep5150]

Would I like to see a Necroscope movie? No. even just the first book is far too complex, to be covered in even a 3 and a half hour movie(Ala return of the king). And as I noted when reading the book and thinking about movie adaptations, Everything that happens in the book is important, theres really not a lot you can afford to cut out.
In addition to that there is the ratings issue, yes the film would get an NC-17 if it came any where near what was portrayed in the book(though to point out a falacy in the prior posts, the MPAA cares more about sex than violence)
I'm not as worried about special effects, as The only Wamphyri in the first book is a voice in someones head that you only see for 1 minute before its killed. And the mobius continuum is just black(really not that hard to do).
All that being being covered I propose a Showtime original series. Then they'd still be able to show the theatre level violence and nudity, plus they'd be able to do it in one hour instalments(maybe with each book being a season). Showtimes had some great series of late(Dexter, Weeds, Penn and Tellers BS), and I heard a rumor awhile back that they might be considering a similar show based on Garth Ennis' Preacher comics(which for graphic sex and violence is on par with Necro-saga), doing each issue as a 1 hour show.

[Anastasios]

I think it would be very difficult to make a movie of this wonderful saga. My feeling is that perhaps an animated movie or a CGI movie like Beowulf would be best. My preference is for an animated movie because I think it would be impossible to cast for a movie like this. No offence to anybody but some of the suggestions here for actors to play parts don't exactly inspire me with confidence.

[twisted_illusions]

omg making a tv series of the necroscope series is an even better idea! brilliant. then the essence would be mostly captured. :grin: with a movie they would have to cut a lot of the important shiz out or else the movie would be lyk 10 hours long...

[DarthVoll]

Greetings,

While a Necroscope film/s sounds great, I would have to agree that it would be tricky ground to cover....however....many other new horror films have been made in the past decade that are outright gruesome and deliver just as much as a Necroscope book (later in its series). As for the first film...it would be mild compared to what they would have to do for the following films. With film making as it is today...there are several techniques to employ that would "shield" the viewer from the truely gross scenes while the viewer still knew what was going on....EXAMPLE: JAWS....did not see the shark until halfway through the film....yet in the begining when the girl gets attacked and tossed around at the surface our minds race as to what the carnage is like below the water....and later we see "remains" on the beach. It would be clever filming like this that would do the Necroscope a great deal more justice for american viewers....but then consider how much gore and stuff thats out there already today. In my opinion IF they did choose to make a Necroscope series of films they could do ALOT and not only that, if they stick to whats there already instead of re-writing the books basically and in effect destroying something of the Necroscopes attraction to its fan base (which happens to about 80% of all book to film projects) then they might have something worthwhile. The trick will be to get a good writer for screen.

I've read all the Necroscope books, including and up to The Touch. Defenders/Defilers/Avengers series was IMO an awesome read...and it was this part of the series that I thought would be best for film. But thats way down the road from the original Necroscope....so best to start from square one and introduce Harry as a young boy in school with his "esper" mother being murdered by a Russian spy (husband/esper in his own way) and the Harry taking revenge later in life on him for that and so on and on the side showing Boris Dragosani's upbringing at the same time would compress the story a bit better and make it a more interesting film for a "begining". Showing both grow up and go through their "changes" in this way on film can save more time for the action sequences later on and even lengthen these for film so the overall effect of the first Book-to-film movie would be one of intrigue/suspense/horror/action all rolled in one. It could certainly be made into an ever increasing "non-stop thrill ride" from the moment Harry becomes a man. As for the intense sexual parts...well, some films have been graphic in that as well. If your looking for an example of sex and gore in one film...well there really isn't a whole lot there...there are some films with certainly horrific scenes of naked contorted bodies IN sexual positions but it only goes thus far...so eventually Necroscope series would break that barrier I think. OR, it would turn out to be one of those film tricks where you hear it but don't quite see it.

As for the Vampires or Whampyri! They would have to stay COMPLETELY true to the creation in these books...else you loose way too much on the development side of the series and the whole thing would blow up and fizzle out....it was the depth of these Vampires which makes it stand out more than any other Vampire based novel out there....these are not the handsome beguilers or romantic crybabies from Ann Rice or even Bram Stokers Dracula. These Vampires are brutal, lustful, powerful, horrific...and each one worse than the previous. I would be most interested on the visual appearances of some of the Whampyri.....not to mention Sunside/Starside's Whampyri/Flyers/Warriors/Aries/Vats/Leeches etc etc. There is so much! Just imagine a murcury colored "egg" slithering out of a Whampyri...skidding across the floor then up a wall and on the cieling only to drop on a new host!! EWWW CREEPY!


Any way you look at it....Necroscope (if your gonna do it right) is gonna need a million dollar budget guaranteed. Thats being realistic....

Also, stay away from the fancy writers as much as possible...all they do is destroy good things. You will need a director that has a genuine interest or is a fan of the series himself/herself. Much like Sam Rami and Spiderman. Dead on for story, just a few tweaks for film and the modern day film goer but overall totally in line with story and other comic series in that genre.



but please continue.....I like reading about the "wet dreams" people are having concerning a full live action film....especially when most have no clue as to what goes into making a film to begin with.


DarthVoll



---I will rise from the depths of the galaxy to strike you down!---

[NecrozDarksoul]

Jumper seems to have taken a big chunk out of any mystique there might have been to unlocking a power to teleport

[Silver]

Necroscope is about more than just teleportation though, there's no deadspeak, Wamphyri or E-Branch in Jumper.

[pheral]

Jumper does not go as far to explaining teleportation. Harry has his numbers and the all important Mobius continuum there is a lot of work just using that. Jumper was good but this is why Necroscope needs to be made better there is so much more to fit in.

[Silky]

Still optioned ... still waiting. Progress came to a stand still during the writer's strike.

We'll just keep our fingers crossed and hope for the best.

Jumper ... didn't like the trailer too much on that one and it will definitely be one we'll have to see...

[Ilya Sul]

That sounds..eh..not so good? :eek:

[twisted_illusions]

what's going on with the necroscope movie? :confused:

[Lord FredRick Manflesh]

You are right...it would take a very large budget to do a decent Wamphyri film. I especially want to see Canker Canison's Fox-warrior. Still my favorite of all Wamphyri warriors with its three snapping muzzles on one head...GOOD STUFF!
LFMF (OTW)

[Bawslev]

for the true nature of horror.

i wonder if he would even understand/do justice, if he had the PRIVELEGE to write up a necroscope movie?

his recent piece seemed good to those i have tlaked to that have seen it: its true 'B HORROR' style too: Plant problems. lol

The Happening i think its called.

[sirbob]

Sad to say but unless you have a vast budget the movie would end up a disaster. One option would be to make it a Manga style cartoon, that way you could keep all the gore in and not have to worry about special effects.

[Helmet Head]

I alway thought it would make a better tv series myself before expanding into films later on, although I also thought the idea of doing it in a manga styly cartton was also a good way to go...

[BadMushroom]

Not entirely sure that Manga-style anime would be a good fit for a Necroscope -series- of movies (coz, to be fair, you'd have to make more than one movie to do any kind of justice to even the first book!) as there is a certain amount of stylistic, aesthetic and auteur cultural expectations that are usually attendant in "Japanimation" features... not to say that an adult-aimed animated feature wouldn't be a marvellous vehicle for the stories as you can express, create and control much more explicitly in animation (for some bizarre reason - its unreality perhaps?), just not necessarily in the anime style.

I'd love to see this done as a TV series though. What a wonderful thought! Something akin to the 'Ultraviolet' series. Remember that? An E-branch inspired bit o' T.V. if ever there was one!

[Silver]

I agree with you there Shroom. Though I love manga I don't think it's the right style for Necroscope. I do agree that an animated version of Nec could be great, but just not in manga style.

I don't know if anyone has seen it, I don't even know who did it but before the films of The Lord Of The Rings came out there was an animated attempt, it's available on DVD still I think. They were going to do it in 2 parts but only actually made the first so it unfortunately stops half way through the story and was never completed - how annoying! I have no idea why they didn't complete it, I don't even know how successful it was when released so I'm in the dark about that bit.

Anyway if you do know what I'm talking about, maybe something along those lines, not like that exactly it'd have to be a bit more grown up but more like that than manga. If not - sorry I can't be more specific!

[Warchief666]

I would pay money to be an extra in that movie.Is there contact number or email address to use to apply for this.I heard all is been finalised soon enough.

[BadMushroom]

Anyway if you do know what I'm talking about, maybe something along those lines, not like that exactly it'd have to be a bit more grown up but more like that than manga. If not - sorry I can't be more specific!

That's pretty much what I was trying to say when I said "adult-aimed animated feature". I love the Ralph Bakshi animated LOTR film. Some parts were quite inspired (use of rotoscope for the orcs; filming live action then animating over the top).

Shame he could only finance half of the story though... :(

[pheral]

What about something along the same lines as Beowulf? I watched that film lately and thought the mixture of real actors and CGI filming had a great impact. It all looked quite realistic while still being able to mix the elements that CGI adds. By that I mean the CGI allows film-makers to make unreal people or events seem real which will be a major milestone in any Necroscope film.

[Helmet Head]

Yeah the orginal LOTR cartoon was amazing and something that stuck with me until I was old enough to actually read the books, some of it was obviously poor due it not being state of the art but somethings they got spot on like Gollum/Smeagol the Orcs and the Nagul were so much better interpretations of the charactors from the books than the interpretations from the films by Jackson.

[Ilya Sul]

What about something along the same lines as Beowulf? I watched that film lately and thought the mixture of real actors and CGI filming had a great impact. It all looked quite realistic while still being able to mix the elements that CGI adds. By that I mean the CGI allows film-makers to make unreal people or events seem real which will be a major milestone in any Necroscope film.

Beowulf and realistic? No, thought it looked like a videogame cutscene....
Also I kind of dislike all that CGI snot....it's beeing abused too much. Good masking would do the Wamphyri much more justice than CGI vampires.

[Silver]

'Shroom, Helm - you've got it, you guys know exactly what I'm talking about!

It wasn't at all like Beowulf, it was animated but some of the scenes as Shroom said were real live but with the animation on top. The thing with the Orcs too, no idea what all the technical stuff means but it did look good and they were MEAN!

There was no CGI and I'm inclined to side a little with Ilya on this one, though I'm certainly not against the use of CGI I though Beowulf was totally unrealistic and the CGI made it look shabby in places. I like subtle CGI done well, not in your face used just for the sake of it.

I wen't to see Beowulf at the cinema in 3D and although it was an impressive achievement it seemed a bit pointless, they'd obviously spent so much time and effort on some scenes but a lot of the scenes, for example in the hall, were very poor in comparison. I was just thinking why? Why didn't they just act it like any other film and save the money on doing something really spectacular with the action scenes or on the set and make it a really good film rather than a gimmic?

[Necroscope22]

1) M night shamalama-ding-dong should not be allowed near the Necroscope series. The last 2 films I hav essen of his sucked big time. (The Village and The Happening).

2) Cartoon hmmmm, maybe. I saw the original LOTR film when I was about 8 and it rocked (actually scared me a bit, the orcs ruled). Although trying to find it now is very hard. If it was made in that same style with todays techniques then maybe but definitley not anime/manga.

3) I still think until it can be done some justice it should be left alone. There is so much that makes to books what they are that to lose any content at all would really deplete the overall story.

I have read many hundreds of books and complete series and to this day the only one I revisit from time to time is Necroscope. The Necrosocpe series is such a superior set of books that it would have to be mulitple epic movies to come close to doing it justice.

That being said I would still watch the movie if it came out. I wouldn't be able to resist ;-)

Cheers Nec22

[Lisa Nocturne]

I got all excited when i found this thread... now that i've read all the posts i'm upset now :(

To be completey honest though, i don't think a film would work, especially with directors today being obsessed with special effects. Harry would have to be played by a new comer, someone fresh to the film industry and it would have to be filmed in the UK, but with all the money for films being in the USA, there's no-way they'd go for that. The way the LOTR was done in the animated/live version was fantastic, that would work to a point... what doesn't help is i've got a 'comic' book edition of Necroscope (which is fantastic!!) and the way the characters have been drawn in this plus the descriptions in the original book is how i would expect them to look and i can't see that happening in the film ...but saying that, if it/they were ever made, i'd be there on the front row grinning from ear to ear i expect

[Ilya Sul]

Yeah...we do all feel like you do, I guess. But the movie is still a myth, so relax ;). I have been waiting years for some kind of news but there were none.

[Silver]

I'm with you there Nec22 and Lisa, whatever format it takes if it does make it to the big screen I'll be there on opening night regardless of whether it's good or bad!

I will try to watch it with an open mind but will undoubtedly note any deviation from the original story, I'll also try to reserve judgement until the end of the film to get the full picture.

For those who do want to see a Necroscope movie don't be too disheartened just yet, these things take a lot of time and the whole process has been hindered by the writer's strike. I know, there is a very real posibility that it will fall through eventually but the option has been bought 3 times now (I think) which is a positive sign. Even though very little progress, if any, has been made they're not giving up on it.

[topol_sheap]

If it makes any of you feel better, F Paul Wilson's Repairman Jack movie has been in development hell for about 13 years now... This is only about 3 years :(

[Silver]

Damn!

I didn't even know they were suposed to be making a Repairman Jack film

[Lazarus Long]

I'm new to the sight and realized about an hour into reading that some of theses remarks are a few years old. I am disappointed that the movie could be made but seems to have no takers. As far as U.S. movie makers, cut us some slack, we have made a fair share of bad bad movies but there are some good ones, even new ones. 30 days of night was actually pretty good. I think that new movies tend to over CGI, and with this project that really shouldn't be a problem. I am a huge fan of this entire series and hopefully if it gets made it will be by someone who reads the books and will try to keep the Necroscope true to them. Peter Jacksons name comes up over and over and honestly I think that he has made some absolutly phenominal movies and I was very very afraid when I saw that LOTR was being done. So I'll keep hope and everyone cut the U.S. a little slack, I do agree though that it shouldn't be made in the U.S. posing as the U.K. My only other fear is if it gets picked up by a U.S. maker is that Harry turns into Will Smith or down a similar path that would shatter me. I like him but not as Harry.

[Lazarus Long]

I agree with you 100% on everything, M. Night, noooo! As far as CGI I am sick and tired of every movie trying to squeeze in as much of this as possible. Lucas killed my childhood memories with his next three of his movies and I thought no worse of the first three for not being CGIed. The Necroscope books are some of the best books ever written and I have given them to anyone who is looking for a book that I know. Until I got on this website I had never even met anyone who had read them, and aside from the Dune series, I can't think of a match for such a long series of books that never gets old, never gets boring. If someone wants to make this and has in mind making more than one I'm all for it, but I just don't see it. I really hope so, but....

[BadMushroom]

..we can all dream though!

On the subject of CGI, I have no problem with it when it's done in moderation, but CGI for its own sake makes me writhe.

I think one of the issues that caused George Lucas problems was that he got caught in trap of needing to be seen to be innovating (in the technical film-creation sense) with the new Star Wars movies. The first three (iv-vi) were a breakthrough in go-motion, film lot and matt-screen special effects and I think he tried to innovate with the new movies by pioneering digital capture, but it seemed to be at the expense of so many other things... Gungans vs Droids decends into Nintendo 64 graphics in some parts, to my tired old eyes.

I can't see how, considering the content of any film based on the first Necroscope book, you could do it without relying on CGI manipulation to some extent but at least we can be assured that no matter what SFX route is opted for, it's the story that's always going to be the star!

So, CGI? What ever! No problem IMHO.

It's not so much the use of CGI, but the conveyance of under-pinning ideas that concerns me about any newly proposed Necroscope movie. The way that CGI, or whatever means, will be used to portray some of the conceptual and explicit themes that underlie the series (such as, for example the "Mobius Continuum", or Dragosani's necromancy etc.) are going to be difficult to pull-off and keep everyone happy!

That said, I think the vast (or even great) majority of people would understand that who ever directs, it's going to be their interpretation of Mr Lumley’s work: in a similar way I enjoy Peter Jackson's interpretation of LoTR, but if I need a lore-fix I go find Tolkien.

[Lazarus Long]

I understand what you are saying and by no means am i trying to degrade any of Lucas work. He is visionary and I still count on Lucas film to do special effects for countless movies, and do a great job at it. I guess that like so many people are saying, the Necroscope is so unique in so many ways that I just don't want it to do one of two things. A. I don't want the heart of the books to get lost in effects, and B. I don't want it to look like any other thing out there. It is a most unique series and it deserves that attention.

There is no other series I have found that comes close to the teeth and claws that the Necroscope has. I've read a ton of them, Anne Rice is ok I guess, I disagree with most every comment on this sight that Interveiw was a good movie, I actually didn't like it much, Queen of the damned was just really bad to me. The 30 days of night graphic novels are amazing and the movie was good, actually I really liked the movie, but the Necroscope again, so unique in so many ways.

[stacey1273]

I don't think too much would have to be CGI'd if done right. Some stuff, more of the sci/fi that is, would be a given. I am a total horror movie fanatic, and I am talking Romero and Fulci,,,and some canibal flicks too,,,that date to the 70's and 80's and not all was really bad back then.if the movie was done good, the necromancer stuff wouldn't have to be done digitally at all..it will take a skillfull artistic mind(or minds as for what is really needed) and people who are not looking to make a mint, but make the movie cuz they love the series. If the person who makes the movie(S) love the series as much as we do, even though they may change stuff to their liking, I think they would stay true to Lumley. :) We already know that when a book is made into a movie, it gets some changes due to budgeting and the like....like LOTR. But I also know many people who had no idea that the LOTR books existed till the movie was made, went back and bought the books and loved them. I think we are all more judgemental the way movies are done when we read the books first. I did that with Silence of the lambs/Hannibal and LOTR and Harry Potter. Regarding the talk about the movie Jumper......I thought that they way they were able to jump one place to another reminded me of Harry and The Dweller's war and how that may get played out in a movie.

[Ash]

The movie simply needs to develop Harry into a character that the public can embrace and care about. If the action and story in the movie carry it well and it is kept simple but solid, then this movie would work. If a director can bring the vision of the vampire to the audience like Lumely has done in our minds, then the audience will be stunned by what we have grown to love about them. The white hat vs. the black hats saga will never tire so long as character development is not sacraficed for special effects. The right leading man, antihero (Dragosani), villan, and set location will make the movie a success.

[Red Desire]

Done well, a film version of Necroscope could take the movie industry by storm. It is in dire need of a decent horror/fantasy movie and something as intelligent as Necroscope would go down so well.

Look how well received Pans Labyrinth was. And that story is nothing compared to the Wamphyri.

[topol_sheap]

I love this series of books, however I do believe Hollywood will royally screw it up and give it an pg13 (or whatever) certificate - this has to be an R rated film - nothing else will do.

[Ash]

Hard to argue what Hollywood has done with its' marketing strategy of taming down movies to appeal to a mass audience. But every once in great while a studio will take a chance on a project that pushes the boundaries of current norms and with great success making a "cult classic" that ultimately becomes an icon of filmaking of that era and the filmakers heralded as visionaries. Look back at the most famous of horror films over the decades and see that they were not made for mass appeal but rather as films that took the audience to place not dared to be tread by the mainstream. Horror is way overdue for just this type of filmmaking. If the studio with the film rights (or another interested studio) is in need of a breakthrough film to put them in position to get talent and financial backing for future projects, this is an excellent vehicle for that purpose. With better than average success, the rights to follow up films continuing the saga could become a very valuable commodity peaking the interest of big money studios or large capital investments for the studio. With any luck we will be looking back and remember how much our love of the story drove us to push to get this film made!

[Ilya Sul]

I love this series of books, however I do believe Hollywood will royally screw it up and give it an pg13 (or whatever) certificate - this has to be an R rated film - nothing else will do.


Yeah, I agree on that. Or X-Rated....wait it's called NC-17 now.

[Dundeemac]

..we can all dream though!


It's not so much the use of CGI, but the conveyance of under-pinning ideas that concerns me about any newly proposed Necroscope movie. The way that CGI, or whatever means, will be used to portray some of the conceptual and explicit themes that underlie the series (such as, for example the "Mobius Continuum", or Dragosani's necromancy etc.) are going to be difficult to pull-off and keep everyone happy!

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It's the old adage, "you can't keep all of the people happy all of the time." The fact that we all love this saga so much and each have our own mental perceptions of "what" the mobius continuum would be like, or how Dragosani's necromancy would be explained on film, means that debate on the films merits could go on forever! I agree that the proposed film could be seriously undermined if filmed in the U.S. with mainstream actors playing lead roles. But on the other-hand, this type of film DOES require a massive budget if the core Necroscope ideas are to reach the audiences. But whatever happens, I like the rest of you will be first in line for tickets!

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[Ash]

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Consider me your West Coast Buddy. Friend of the friendless...:cool:

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[Silver]

Sorry to be all moderator-ish guys but this is now very much off topic so I'm going to have to ask you to either get back on topic, start a new thread for this somewhere more appropriate (maybe settlement or the retreat) or continue the conversation through private messaging each other.

Thanks

[Ash]

No problem for me. Any word on a screenplay or any other development news?

[Silver]

Not that I've heard, though I'm sure that when (if) there is there'll be a post here about it.