caller of the black

[chris]

hello everyone.
i need a copy of "the caller of the black",anyone that wants to trade/sell me theirs should email me.
thanks

[SpOOkshow]

I take it you mean a copy of the book?
(an Arkham House collection?)

or the just the story?

If its the book you want, good luck.

However, the story features in 'The Compleat Crow.'

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[chris]

yeah,i meant the book.actually,i`ve found several copies for sale since i posted that...if anyone is looking to buy a copy,email me and i`ll hook you up with the info.

[shaithis@rocketmail.com]

Are you collecting all of Lumley's out of print work?

[chris]

well...sort of,i guess.mainly all i read by lumley are the mythos/dreamlands/primal land stuff.i`ve never read necroscope or anything.
the only other book i`ve read besides those is psychomech,which i`m in the middle of right now.
for some reason,i just never cared about the other books,i`m sure that they are good though.
but i think i have basically all of the mythos related lumley books that are available in the u.s.,there are a few that i need that are u.k. editions though.

[shaithis@rocketmail.com]

Cool. I am currently upgrading my collection to Hard Cover. I have all of Lumley's work that has been on paperback (aside from some HC editions like the Primal Lands etc.). I am thinking of looking and picking up his old OOP work like Caller in Black, Ghoul Warning (1st) etc. as well.

Do you have the Titus Crow novels in Hard Cover? What set did you get if you did...the Ganley Editions or TOR? The TOR editions seem very economically feasable as you only need three books as opposed to two, but I do not know the difference in quality and collectability. As for the Dreamlands stories the only way to go is the Ganley Editions if you want HC.



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[chris]

i initially got a few of the titus crow books from a used bookshop down the road from me,they were published by DAW books,in the late 70`s.they have amazing cover art.i`ve upgraded the whole set to hardcover though...the TOR editions.
the HERO AND ELDIN stuff i have is all tor paperbacks,i also have the two hero...stories that were printed in WEIRDBOOK(stealer of dreams,and the weird wines of naxis niss)

i am actually pretty bummed out about a few of the comments that lumley made in the faq thing.
someone asked him a question,something about where he get`s his ideas from...and he started the answer off with "that`s a stupid question".

also,how he says that there will be no more dreamlands/mythos stories because he wasn`t interested in that sort of thing anymore.

perhaps i`m being over sensitive,but i`m not very happy about his attitude.whatever,i guess.

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[shaithis@rocketmail.com]

Well he just doesn't seem to really like to answer those questions I suppose. I know it must get tiresome being asked when your next Mythos story is going to come out...over and over again. I know, I asked the same question of him in Niagara Falls http://www.brianlumley.com/ubb/smile.gif

Cool stuff you got there, do you collect any other Mythos writer's works too? I'm trying to find another good action/adventure mythos writer similar to Lumley's work. Any suggestions?

Brian Lumley's Terra Khash novels have inspired me to read some Robert Howard Conanish stuff. Really liked it so far...wish Conan had a little more Mythos stuff like Lumley's Khash did.

[chris]

ramsey campbell,and robert bloch write a good story....
there is actually a book published by chaosium called SCROLL OF THOTH(SIMON MAGUS and the GREAT OLD ONES),and it is a little remniscent of hero and eldin.it is written by richard tierney.
also...they published a tribute to the brian lumley mythos called SINGERS OF STRANGE SONGS,and it is definately worth picking up.

do you know what the book "khai on ancient khem' is all about?i almost got a copy,but someone beat me to it.is it mythos related at all?

i guess i can understand getting tired of answering the same question over and over again,but i still don`t see that as an excuse to have such a jaded attitude. if not for his fans buying his books,what would he be?i think he should be flattered that so many people are interested in books he`s written in the past.

what did he say to you when you asked him that,just out of curiosity?

[shaithis@rocketmail.com]

I want to check out Ramsey Campbell ASAP http://www.brianlumley.com/ubb/smile.gif I'll try to check out Bloch as well.

Richard Tierney? I'll have to look into it. Is it a full length novel? I only saw one full length novel so far at that site.

Yes I have Singers of Stranges Songs and Diciples Of Cthulhu, both excellent reads, I want to get more of their cycle books I think. Probably start with Ithaqua (since I live in the great white north http://www.brianlumley.com/ubb/smile.gif

Khai of Ancient Khem is one of my favorite Lumley books. I read it long ago, but somehow it was either stolen or lost and now I need to replace it. I loved it. A great action/adventure. Sort of along the lines of Terra Khash I would suppose, only he is not an outright barbarian. As for Mythos related. Sure it is. Only very loosely. I mean some of the atmosphere and settings make it Mythos-ish, but that's about it if I recall. I'll have to reread it as it's been a while.

As for the Jaded comments...have you read any Robert Jordan interviews? Holy Cow! I've never read any of his novels, but I may read the Conan's of his since I'm on this kick right now, but man does he ever shoot his fans down when they ask if he will write another Conan novel. Yikes. I already don't have a good impression of him.

Actually Lumley's comments back to me were typical of what I've heard from most authors when they have moved on, changed their interests, or just fell they don't want to write that kind of stuff anymore. He said that was early in his career and he has no new Mythos stories planned. (Rob Jordan said the same thing almost word for word about his Conan novels...only he's not as nice). I totally understand I think. As much as I love Lumley's Mythos, he did comment that he wrote most of it almost 20 - 25 years ago. Quite a long time ago, and quite a long time to be writing the same thing I suppose.

[SpOOkshow]

Ramsay Campbell?

Check out

'Cold Print' ( a Headline book, i think )

Its a compilation of most of his Mythos style works...some brilliant stuff.

Coincidentally, - i picked it up from my bookshelf yesterday...bizarre..
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[chris]

I completely agree with you about 25 years being a long time to be writing the same stuff... it wasn`t really that as much as the attitude.

yeah...that tierney book (scroll of thoth) is a bunch of short stories that follow the life of Simon Magus,in order.all of the stories are mythos related,and all are quite good.he holds your attention just like lumley does.

so...are you from canada?i love the DOUGHBOYS.

[shaithis@rocketmail.com]

I will check out the novel, it sounds kinda Titus Crowish to me http://www.brianlumley.com/ubb/smile.gif

Um, the Doughboys from Montreal, PQ correct? I can't recall the songs they sung http://www.brianlumley.com/ubb/frown.gif Probably haven't heard em in a really long time.

[ShadoeWolfe]

Chris, just to set a couple things straight.

Brian actually started out the answer to the idea question with "that's a dumb question" which - if you think about it for one second - it is. Where do any ideas come from? Have you ever had an idea? Well, where did it come from? If it came from someone or something, it isn't your idea, it's that entity's idea. If it came from you...well, it came from you. It's that simple.

On the Mythos topic, like you agreed, it was 25 years ago. Brian has since moved on to other things, such as the Necroscope saga, and that is also coming to a close, much to the disappointment of many fans. I think it is a testament to the man's work that so many people still love his old stuff that is drastically different from his new. The same in a way, but different nonetheless.

Writers must move on or the material becomes stale. You can only write so much about a certain subject. And as for any 'attitude' that you may have perceived from Brian - puh-lease - give me a break. http://www.brianlumley.com/ubb/smile.gif I sensed more attitude from your comments about him than I ever did when reading the FAQ from Brian. Although, I know Brian and I know how he talks so I read that into his writing. If you haven't ever met him, then you need to know that there is always a sly grin on the other side of that sharp tongue....which might account for that 'attitude' you speak of. Keep that in mind when reading his work or his comments on this site. http://www.brianlumley.com/ubb/smile.gif

One final thing: "if not for his fans buying his books,what would he be?..." Be careful of throwing a comment like this around. Brian loves his fans and knows and admits without them he's nothing. This site is proof of that. Show me another author who has a site on the Net setup to keep fans up to date to the minute and actually interacts with them on a regular basis. I doubt you find one. Brian doesn't have to support this one either, but he does becuase he wants his fans to be happy. You could find out things about him by heresay and the chance encounter of someone who talked to someone who talked to someone who heard him say something once. That would suck and most people would agree, but a lot of authors treat their fans that way - Brian doesn't. He IS flattered by his fans who love his work, both new and old. It just can get tiresome sometimes having to hear the same dumb comment over and over and over and over and over........that's all.

Hear any 'attitude' in my comments? Not trying to, but I am putoff a bit by your previous statements. I've tried to give a you a bit of insight so that the next time you expect something from someone, you don't expect anymore than you deserve.

Thanks as always for using the Board and sharing your comments and I hope you continue to do so. http://www.brianlumley.com/ubb/smile.gif

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[chris]

say what you will...but i do not think that telling anyone that their question is a dumb one is a very nice thing to do.that`s that.
believe me,i mean absolutely no ill towards mr. lumley whatsoever,he is my favorite author after all.i was merely stating that i read some of his comments as having a bit of an attitude.
if you thought that i was being rude or malicious,i assure you that is not the case.

believe me,i can definately understand,and appreciate the concept of getting tired of people asking the same question over and over again, especially when it`s in regards to something that you`re trying to move past(like the mythos),and i don`t have the luxury of knowing mr. lumley on a personal level like yourself,so i wouldn`t know of the "sly grin" that he may have on when he says things like that,and i`m sure that not everyone knows that there is a smile behind his razor tongue when he tells someone that they have asked a dumb question.

like i`ve stated already,i love brian lumley,or else i wouldn`t be posting messages on his messageboard,and i hope that nobody takes or took any offense to anything that i have said.i can assure you...it`s all love on this end http://www.brianlumley.com/ubb/smile.gif

and...as for saying not to go throwing around a comment like "what would he be if not for his fans"....i do sense a bit of hostility on your end.if you think that i was talking trash when i said that,then i understand perfectly.but let me tell you right now that i was not.

i hate to be misunderstood,perhaps i will word my replies a bit more carefully in the future,as to avoid any further "stepping on toes"

all love and respect....

[chris]

whoa...
i had about forgotten that when i reply to you,that it`s posted on the board.
again....sorry if i`ve made anyone mad.

ahh..the doughboys.one of the greatest things to ever come out of canada.i listen to them everyday.

that tierney book is good...you`ll probably like it.

[chris]

'COLD PRINT" is a good one.
another great ramsey campbell book is "alone with the horrors"...it`s an arkham house compilation of his best short stories.

i picked that up from a foolish used book seller for 5 dollars...hardback.

i think that i have said this before,but i recently purchased a copy of "caller of the black",and i have found an almost infinite supply of people who are selling that book...a lot of them want outrageous money for it,but a lot of them are selling it fairly cheap.if anyone wants a list...let me know

[shaithis@rocketmail.com]

I probably will be asking you about the list to get the Caller In Black, but not until I come back from my Ski Trip in B.C.

Incidentally are there any stories of his in that collection that has not been reprinted in other collections?

[chris]

you know,i`m not sure,i haven`t recieved the book yet,it`s paid for,but still in the mail i suppose.i`m assuming that there probably are at least a few in there that haven`t been reprinted.i guess i`ll find out.

there is a place in canada that has the book for 67 u.s. dollars,i was going to buy from that bookseller,but he took forever to reply to me,so i got it elsewhere.

just today i found a lumley story that i haven`t read,in a book called "BEST NEW HORROR" or something like that,it`s called "no sharks in the med".i`ll be reading that one tonight.

[shaithis@rocketmail.com]

That one is also in Dagon's Bell and Other Discords, one that thankfully I have http://www.brianlumley.com/ubb/smile.gif

I looked up the book though 'Best New Horror'. Looks good. It's a whole series it looks like. I may check it out some other time, but I think the next collection of stories I probably will purchase is Northern Frights, a Canadian horror anthology (how often can I see my hometown in a horror story eh? http://www.brianlumley.com/ubb/smile.gif

[chris]

where did you get dagon`s bell?i have tried to order it from several places,and they all tell me that it`s a u.k. only edition,and that they can`t get it.

there are a few others that i have tried to get that are u.k. as well,i can`t remember them right offhand.

i just got a few lead miniature figures a few days ago that are pretty neat...among them are Dagon,Shudde M`ell,nyrlathotep,a night gaunt,and a dhole.

[shaithis@rocketmail.com]

Your best bet for U.K. editions is to order them from online Canadian booksellers. Canadian booksellers have the option of either selling the U.S. published version of the novel, or the U.K. one. Hence quite a big confusion when you go to the bookstores and see things like 'Maze of Worlds' and right next to it 'House Of Doors II' http://www.brianlumley.com/ubb/smile.gif

Some major canadian sites are www.chapters.ca (http://www.chapters.ca) and also www.indigo.ca. (http://www.indigo.ca.) But it sounds like you also check out abebooks as well, so if you can find a Canadian retailer just email em and they should be able to special order it for you. I just checked out the sites and they don't offer it there currently. A U.K. Site I ordered from once (got 'Return of the Deep Ones from them) is http://www.waterstones.co.uk/. It'll take a loooong time to get your order though.

Shuddem'ell & other Mythos Mini's Where? I want some! Gimme a link to a seller or something!

[chris]

i got mine from an auction...but you can buy them individually.
check out either chaosium.com,or wizards attic.com,they have some of them.the shudde m`ell is amazing looking.
they run about 10 dollars each for the cool ones,and you can get lesser ones in sets of three for about 6 dollars,like ghouls and stuff like that.
that site also has two awesome statues,but they are expensive.one is HPL`s face,but with crazy tentacles and stuff wrapped around his head,and the other is cthulhu,and it looks cool.it reminds me of "beneath the moors" when i look at it.those are like 75 and 100 dollars each.
yeah,there`s lots of crazy stuff at that wizards attic site.if you have a credit card,be careful not to max it out,it`ll be hard not to buy everything.

[shaithis@rocketmail.com]

Well, I'm pretty darned low on cash after my holidays, but I definitely will check them out...and hopefully get them when I recover from the holidays http://www.brianlumley.com/ubb/smile.gif