Some Questions

[nicodemus_99]

Hey there,

I have just finished reading the Vampire trilogy in the Necroscope series and i have some questions that hopefully some of you fine fellow fans can help me with. Now i've read them all, (except for the new one which i'm getting for chrsitmas,) and there is just one thing that is eluding me. Okay, here goes...

All throughout the vampire trilogy, why didn't Nathan's step brother Harry Jr. contact him? When Nathan found out he was the hellanders son why didn't he contact Harry Jr. through deadspeak? I know Harry went on to a higher ground and power but i don't remember anything of the sort for Harry Jr. Wouldn't he still be on the boulder plains where he died? Anything that can clear this up would be greatly appreciated. Thanks...

Brian Kohler

[Dragutin]

Harry Jr. died with his dad the lady Karen, shaitain and shaithis at the end of 5 and I believe they were all wiped from any existence. Except harry who started the reincarnation.

[DreadScythe]

I dont think it would have done any good to contact Harry Jr. toward the end he was having a hard time remembering his human days and was becoming a wolf. and when you die you do what you did in life Harry Jr. would have remembered being a wolf and would continue doing his wolf things
Just a little thought

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[Mike C]

I had also considered this and came up to my own satisfaction that either Dragutin's or DreadScythe's solution would work, but I can't say which idea BL had in mind... if any at all.

[Krynus]

I'll agree that Harry & co. were blown out of existence. After all, they were nuked!

I don't understand the dart thing though. Ok, the darts went to his sons, I get that bit, but to others throughout history, such as Nostradamus? What's that about?

[Mike C]

Krynus this doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me either, but since Nostradamus was able to predict the future to some degree could we be seeing that all of the powers Harry had accumulated being dispersed throughout history. The suggestion being that only Harry had the common sense, the morals, the responsibility and the humanity to handle all of the powers he had accumulated. Perhaps because he actually had to learn how to use these powers?

His sons (Harry Jr, and Nathan) would have the ability to speak to the dead (which would allow them to gain other abilities, like being able to see the future by examining life threads), but the rest of the knowledge/abilities that Harry had when he died would be passed on to people we see as gifted (like Nostradamus).

I would like to know what other people think, however I really don't want to debate BL's agenda throughout the series... I just like reading the books. Too much thinking makes my brain itch.

[Rikus]

Nathan's nephews said their mother talked to their father. Their mother is a wolf. Nathan didn't seem to be able to converse with the grey brotherhood's Great Majority. And as Dreadscythe suggested earlier, The Dweller continued being a wolf. Anyway that's how I figure it.

[gatewish]

I have another question. If Shaitan was the first vampire and he lived till he was 3500 years old then why did Radu Lykan only live till he was 1900 years old though he was born
around the same time. Radu was banished through the hell-lands gate at about 300AD only about 200 years after his succesion. So by 1970 when Harry Snr killed him he was 1900 years old yet Shaitan lived to be 3500 years and was killed only 8 years after Radu. Anyone any suggestions? If you have read Lost Years 1 and Deadspawn you know what I mean.

[Lichloathe]

gatewish, I know exactly what you mean, in fact the same thing hit me from the first time I read the Lost Years and I was planning to mention it. Shaitan had already been established as a Wamphyri Lord in Starside when Radu made his way there, but even this way, he could only have been 100 years older max (and I think I do exaggerate the number).
I believe this is one of the problems Brian mentioned when he said how difficult it is to continue the series. The way I see it, Radu was such a powerfull Lord that he should have been banished by one far more powerfull: Shaitan the Unborn. Hence the time discrepancy in order to make the novel more exciting.
On the other hand, we know how the Wamphyri are all liars and maybe Shaitan lied to Shaithis about being 3500 years old (and Shaithis was not one for the histories so...)
In any way, I enjoy the novels just the same, even if the numbers don't exactly match. It's the story that counts and Brian is the greatest storyteller....


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"Though thou seest me not pass by,
Thou shalt feel me with thine eye
As a thing that, though unseen,
Must be near thee and hath been;"

[gatewish]

Hmm. Well that'll do for me. Good point.

[Atwei]

Another question - How, why, when and where did INTESP become E-Branch? In Necroscope, Dragosani et al were called E-Branch, but in the rest of the books, INTESP is referred to as E-Branch. I think that INTESP was a much better name than E-Branch.

[Shujaak]

If my memory servers me correct Nathan was only 4 years old when the Russians sent the nukes through the gate to char Shaitan and Shaithis. At that time he only recalled nightmares about his Deadspeak and didn't realize his gift. And as for the Dweller he was suffering from memory loss due to his vampire flesh trying to heal itself. Thus he became more wolf than man. This is just my opinion based on what I have read.


What do you think?

Happy Raiding,
Shujaak

[Emaleth]

Yes you are right about Nathan being a child at the time of Harry & Harry Jr's death.

And as far as Harry Jr reaching Nathan with deadspeak. Not sure except that at the time when he was still alive, I doubt that he knew of the twins because Harry was still around and the 'spikes' had never reached them as yet. And he was too much of a wolf as well.

And why he didn't try or the grey one's even since Nathan could speak to them in sorts. Not sure..perhaps the Grey ones did not know that Nathan was Harry's son. And you have to remember that the dead were not too fond of necroscopes of anykind either after that, so they wouldn't have mentioned it.

Ok..I have done a fantastic job at rambling and confusing myself..welcome to my world..*chuckles*

[Canker]

Gate...wasn't there something in Novel 3 The Source about the time between our earth and the Vampire world being different. One place 3 days equals 3 weeks or something like that.Might clear up a bit of time confusion

[gatewish]

At first I thought that but then I realised that time is the same. It's just the earth's rotation which is different. On our Earth it takes 24 hours for the earth to make a complete rotation. On Sunside/Starside it takes ~72 hours or so.

[Faethor]

Several questions raised, here is my opinion on these matters. The time between worlds is different, and brian makes it clear several times. The rotation is different as far as sundown and sunup, but there was a temporal time difference. As far as nathan contacting harry jr. Harry jr was completely used up as a man when he died...as a wolf, not a man. When the harry and harry jr. sent the power thru the many worlds using the continuum, it destroyed harry's and harry jr's isoteric abilities. The darts of power were the secrets locked in harry's mind. Most he didn't know where there. But brian hinted he harry was no different than shaitan except he went up a rung on the ladder and usually chose good over evil in what ever worlds he was manifest. As the voice of the "others" told harry, nothing is wasted, his power was sent thru out time and history and multiverses to those who they were meant for. Harry was basically a being of light, just like shaitan was, and harry keogh just happen to be the form he was given this time around. All the others were parts of him. In nestor case, it may have been as brian hinted in his books. God removed the dark side of himself and cast it down. For everything there is a balance. Nathan the light, and nestor the dark. Each were part of harry...like father like sons.

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Power perceived...is POWER achieved.

[Kalimari the Mindless]

Nice reply, Faethor, and not too far from my own views for the most part. I don't think there is a time difference though, other than the planet spin time.