June 15, 200916 yr comment_39105 Okay I have read the the Necroscope books all of them...my question is how should i read them...last time i read the books i read them like this... Necroscope Wamphyri Lost Yrs Pt 1 Lost Yrs Pt 2 Source Deadspeak DeadSpawn Blood Brothers Last Aerie Bloodwars Invaders Defilers Avengers Or should I read them the way they were wrote? b/c Lost yrs do take place between Wamphyri and Source...As for the Short Stories shoulpd I consider putting those with the Lost yrs as well? My next question is about his other books....I got alot of his books House of Doors and it Sequel....Never read Titus Crow and his six novels....Mostly Read Hero of Dreams and the other two...Never Read Khai of Khem...Never Read Demogorgan...Read Whisperer, Beneath the Moors and Fruting Bodies...Read Opinion Wise their all good books in my opinion but i wanna read the Necroscope books again b4 anything else but afterwards what should I read? this question is for like a poll you know... As for my last question...And i don't wanna start any fights...but How many people here think Stargate ripped off the Source? Report
June 15, 200916 yr comment_39106 Well i myself am fairly new to these things and am unsure of what order, i myself read the lost years BEFORE any other necroscope material... Report
June 15, 200916 yr comment_39107 This question is in the FAQ section. THE NECROSCOPE NOVELS: (In Reading Order): 1. Necroscope 2. Necroscope II: Wamphyri! 3. Necroscope III: The Source 4. Necroscope IV: Deadspeak 5. Necroscope V: Deadspawn 6. Vampire World I: Blood Brothers 7. Vampire World II: The Last Aerie 8. Vampire World III: Bloodwars 9. The Lost Years Vol. I 10. The Lost Years Vol. II 11. E-Branch: Invaders 12. Necroscope: Defilers 13. Necroscope: Avengers 14. Necroscope: The Touch Edited June 15, 200916 yr by jello Report
June 15, 200916 yr Author comment_39108 I know that because that is where i looked first....i came here to get opinions... All i was saying was the lost yrs make sense more if you read them in between books 2 and 3 and i was just seeing if anyone agreed with that... Report
June 15, 200916 yr comment_39109 IMHO - I always re-read them the way I first read them - the order they were written. I figure if Brian wrote them that way, that's the way I should read them. But I know a lot of people that read them chronologically, so it really is up to the individual. But now you know how I do it. Either way - i always enjoy them. Report
June 15, 200916 yr comment_39115 I'm with you on this one Shadoe, the order I first read them in which is the chronological one is the best in my opinion. Relating to the other part of your query James, I think you should read ALL the other titles you mentioned, they are all really good. I would say read Khai of khem first though, after all those Necroscopes you may not want to jump into another series straight away (I could be wrong though, you might!) so go for one of the stand alone novels, and this one is amazing! The others are great, but I think this one is the best. Regarding Stargate, there are those who believe it was a complete rip off, I don't think anyone will take offence at that - well noticed! Edited June 15, 200916 yr by Silver Report
June 15, 200916 yr comment_39118 Hi welcome to the boards. Read them in the order the way they were witten. Dreamland are fantastic, if i were you i'd read them next. Report
June 15, 200916 yr Author comment_39120 About his new book Harry and the Pirates....i know its short stories so thats not my question....my question will thier be a story about the Wamphyri or what? Report
June 15, 200916 yr comment_39121 There are no Wamphyri in the Harry and the Pirates collection unfortunately but nevertheless the stories are pretty spooky and not out of keeping with established Necroscope lore IMHO. I must admit that it never occured to me that Stargate might have ripped off The Source. The Stargate is an ancient artifact created by aliens. The Gate is a (super?)natural phenomenon that leads to another Universe. I guess the 1960s Irwin Allen TV show Time Tunnel might also be an influence... also the Guardian in Star Trek's City on the Edge of Forever. I don't think we have any proof that the makers of Stargate were even aware of Necroscope. So I reckon it's a bit of a stretch to call it a rip off. Report
June 15, 200916 yr Author comment_39122 I began reading Brian Lumley back in High School I was 16 or 17 give or take...So I have been a fan for about almost 8 to 9 years....I know I am young...I memorized the Wamphyri bloodlines the first time I read through the books...i read the books two or three times... Now my next question.....About a certain bloodline....The Ferenczys, especially those on Starside...lets start at the first.... Lagula and Rahki Ferenczy the brothers.... Nonari "The Gross" Ferenczy and Freyda Ferenc Bela Manculi....Egg-Son of Freyda Ferenc...The Only egg that wasn't bad and diseased went to him.... Lord Bela Belari...Most likely the egg-son of Bela Manculi Jemma Freydaskith...Not to sure about this one...most likely Egg-Daughter... Between these two is their a missing Ferenc or is Ion her Egg-Son, she could of possibly died in the War with Malinari, Vavara and Szwart.... Ion Ferenc..Fess's Father Fess Ferenc...Ion's Bloodson and Egg-son if I remember correctly and last Ferenczy to rule on Starside and banished to the Icelands Am I right or wrong? Report
June 15, 200916 yr comment_39123 I would read them in the order written. I would then read Khai. Oh, and welcome to the board Report
June 15, 200916 yr Author comment_39127 I am going to leave my above statement for someone to answer if they would like.... My follow up questions to the reading order is..is to ask those people who answered it the way they did the question ..... Why? Report
June 17, 200916 yr comment_39153 BTW, James, You missed Petre Stakis - father of Lagula and Rakhi. As to Ion Ferenc, Brian doesn't elaborate on how he and Fess fit into the Ferenczy family tree. The same is true of Bela Belari and Jemma Freydaskith... who I'd forgotten until you brought them up. I'll have to look them up and add them to my site. Are they mentioned in the Vampire World trilogy? I've drawn up a Ferenczy family tree on my site (click Characters), if you're interested. The URI is: http://members.lycos.co.uk/jordandesign/necropaedia/ Report
June 17, 200916 yr Author comment_39155 Petre Stakis...lost his egg to Lagula and bit Rahki whom later developed a leech...am i correct? as for Bela and Jemma thats in Invaders....it mentions their bloodline right their.... As for Ion Ferenc and Fess Ferenc...from what I heard their was always a ferenczy in Starside throught Wamphyri history... Also... between say Invaders and the Source...I know one is book 11 and the other is book 3....but in the timeline...Shaithis was around 100 yrs old by the time Malinari, Szwart and Vavara got banished....and he was what 500 by the time Harry went to Starside So it is possible that Ion came after Jemma b/c of the Bloodwar that had happened... Another question added...is it possible Nonari or Onarius never died? Edited June 17, 200916 yr by james1984 Report
June 17, 200916 yr comment_39156 Open mouth. Extract foot. I found the part in Invaders where it tells of Jemma and Bela. Although Korath doesn't seem entirely sure of his facts, I think we can safely assume that Jemma was descended from Freyda and thus a Ferenczy. In my defence, it is about ten years since I last read Invaders. BTW I also found mention of the ill-fated Narkus Stakis in that section: any relation to Petre, do you think? As for Ion and Fess, they were certainly Ferenczys but I don't know how they fit into the dynasty. Fess appears to me to be the last surviving Ferenczy at the time of Shaitan's return. Nonari was rumoured to have been murdered by pirates at his villa at Odessus in c.450AD. It is only rumour: so who knows. It's certainly an intriguing possibility. A subject for another novel <hopeful grin> :grin: Report
June 17, 200916 yr Author comment_39158 hey its ok...its been a few yrs since i read any of Brians Books....so... As for Petre and Narkus....well thats interesting b/c theirs what a 1500 yr difference between the two at least maybe even more...a bloodson of Petre's and father down retook the name...its possible As for Ion and Fess...well thats a mystery... Only two Ferenczys on Earth were really unaccounted for...Nonari and Waldemar who was supposedly lost at sea... Now with Nonari could he re-fashion his hand into a normal looking hand and make himself look good instead of Gross? I looked through your character guide...Waldemar had four children... A Bloodson most likely born from his own sister....and his egg-son Faethor...Faethor had to dispose of his own brother to claim the castle... And then he had twins...Bloodsons...Angelo and his brother who was destroyed when he was born.... let me ask something...B/c Nestor was Harry's son he could be considered a Necroscope as well until he turned Wamphyri... Edited June 17, 200916 yr by james1984 Report
June 17, 200916 yr comment_39159 Thanks for the clarification as regards Waldemar and Faethor. I'll have to go back and check that. As for Nestor... I'm not sure. Was he showing signs that he could communicate with the dead before he became Wamphyri and discovered a talent for necromancy? I guess they're two sides of the same coin. Both could speak to the dead but one used diplomacy and the other violence to obtain information. Is the choice of method down to personal nature or are they two discrete and different talents. Report
June 17, 200916 yr Author comment_39162 hey no problem....glad i could help.... As for the abilities...well they are identical in their use...just different... As for Nonari...i am sure he fused his hand into a club himself...so could he defuse it and become normal and beautiful? by any chance since you wrote it who is... Gar Unkh Edited June 17, 200916 yr by james1984 Report
June 17, 200916 yr comment_39163 Gar Unkh is a character in For the Dead Travel Slowly. My guess is Nonari could use his metamorphism to unfuse his hand just as he had fused it. Perhaps not overnight but over time... as for becoming "beautiful" perhaps temporarily. Many Wamphyri could will themselves to look younger and more attractive for a while. Waldemar could certainly also be alive. He was reported drowned in 547AD, but was said to have sired Angelo (and his twin) in 866AD. That's more than 300 years later. Good trick for a dead man, even for a Wamphyri. Report
June 17, 200916 yr Author comment_39164 i am sorry...i just loved the Necroscope books when i read them...they truly fascinated me.... Though something confused me...In all his other books...Brian makes the Ferenczys look like the bad guys which they were.... In the lost years...Radu took their spot and they kinda became sympathetic characters....it was kinda weird...but i liked it... I gotta say one thing about the Ferenczy's they have survived the longest of any family...including Shaitans... Report
June 18, 200916 yr Author comment_39166 The only proof that Nonari and Beloz were two different people were of course Radu and Nonari's slave girl.... The only way they were truly two different people was to implant the slave girl can't remember her name with false memories if that is possible...and if it is he himself became Belos Pheropzis Report
June 18, 200916 yr comment_39175 This is great. The wamphyri have such confusing bloodlines, to make such a study of them takes dedication and a lot of patience! I used to think that Waldemar could still be alive, but dismissed it thinking that I must have missed something. Report
June 18, 200916 yr Author comment_39179 Actually...i was very dedicated...it really didn't take patience....I did it for the fun of it while I read the series... Report
June 18, 200916 yr comment_39180 The same for me as I was rereading the books and constructing Necroscopy (now Necropaedia of course). It was a pleasure and a diversion... and web building practice. I love the fact that Wamphyri history is somewhat cloudy. It lends a validity to the stories that it is not all cut and dried. What we refer to as fact is often ambiguous so why shouldn't fantasy be the same. Much of what Radu learns about the Ferenczys is equivocal: garnered from tortured Berbers and a dying Drakul amongst other dubious sources. It is chinese whispers. The one sure thing we can take from him is that Radu and Nonari came through the gate together, probably in 371AD. He was there after all. I'm less likely to believe Faethor's account as it is mostly hearsay passed down either from his egg-father or from an even less reliable source... and Faethor was the greatest of Wamphyri liars. Apart from Waldemar, his sister and their son are unaccounted for and thus could concievably have survived. Certainly if you Google "Ferenczy" it returns some 829,000 results. Some have survived: are they all descendents of the Szgany supplicants or are some surviving lords and ladies? Report
June 18, 200916 yr comment_39181 Certainly if you Google "Ferenczy" it returns some 829,000 results. Some have survived: are they all descendents of the Szgany supplicants or are some surviving lords and ladies? But that would mean the Wamphyri are ... real ...? heh heh That has always been the part of Brian's writing I have loved - the real places and people that he throws into his 'fiction' make it almost seem possible to actually exist... or is he just writing what he knows...? Report
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