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March 15th, 2000, 09:12 PM
As I work with vacuum systems - I was wondering how long a wamphyri would last in a vacuum, anybody care to go with this subject?
March 16th, 2000, 02:47 AM
I would tend to agree with you on this occasion, however,I do believe the more experienced wamphyri would have a better chance of survival.
Is not the earth within a vacuum?
Kalimari the Mindless
March 16th, 2000, 04:58 AM
A very interesting question. My opinion is that metamorphic or not, the laws of science must catch up with you in the end. Unless the Wamphyri body can form some kind of solid bone-like covering soonish, it must eventually succumb to the inevitable.
The vampire itself I'm not sure about.
March 17th, 2000, 10:06 AM
Ok, this is assuming that in this vacuum there isn't a chance for air...of any sort. And I quote...from the Master himself:
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>The flyer had clamped its rubbery pouch shut on Zack to expell all air, and even a vampire must breath or suffocate. Lord Shornskull was no exception. A moment more and...he was not dead, but very unconscious.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
This was from 'Bloodwars'. Now, with this in mind...how can one survive in a vacuum? Of course, it has been many years since I was in a school room...so I am more than likely behind :-| Perhaps I slept through this subject instead of taking notes.
March 17th, 2000, 10:52 AM
What and where exactly is this vacuum? Is it the true vacuum of space or the man-made substitute? I should imagine the lifespan of our Wamphyri test subject would be cut quite short in either circumstance (especially when taking into account the words of the Master as stated by Emaleth), give or take a few precious moments of un-death in a man-made vacuum.
And no, the container wouldn't necessarily implode, that is why we have vacuum flasks and tv picture tubes.
I actually find another interesting question arising in my mind out of all of this. Just how far under the sea would our poor Wamphyri test subject go before he's turned into so much bloody red mash? (providing of course we kit him up with breathing apparatus)
But anyways, enough of my mental meanderings, in answer to the original question, I say 5.632 minutes http://www.brianlumley.com/ubb/wink.gif
Andrew the Sinister
March 17th, 2000, 11:47 PM
In response to how long a Wamphyri could exist in the vacuum of space, I'd say a young one like Shornskull would die quickly, but Shaitan on the other other hand could completely depressurize his body and slow his metabloism so greatly that he would not need to breath or need any heat. So Shaitan could last a day or two.
I think the idea of a marine diving Wamphyri interesting. I hope the Master will have some vampire that is part fish in a future book.
March 18th, 2000, 01:00 AM
From what I saw in Deadspeak, I would assume that Whampyri can drown, or at least thralls can. So I would assume that vaccumes would kill them as well. Of course, depending on the vaccume, they may be able to survive longer or shorter. Space would kill them in a minute or two (all that sunlight, plus being frozen, and that's if they can adjust their inner pressure), not sure how long a vaccume chamber would take. Would definitly be interesting to watch, though. Of course, I don't know much about this sort of thing, so I could be wrong.
Cogito ergo non sum= I think therefore I do not exist
March 20th, 2000, 04:24 PM
There is always the other way of looking at it. How do you kill something that is already dead?
March 23rd, 2000, 11:56 PM
Assuming that we're talking about Vamps in Space! There are some reasonable scientific principles that would come into play alowing Wamphyri to survive...
As long as the pressure change from normal atmosphere to space (vacuum) isn't too quick (either explosions or bubbling blood... Mega-Bends!) and the Wamphyri doesn't have any air in its lungs then it would only have to contend with the coldness of space... Floats around until it finds a nice planet to sail towards with juicy mortal to gorge upon... aggghhhhhh...
But it is all theory (or at least I hope it is!)</font>
I know I'm probably wrong, but who really cares? (http://www.pybob.i12.com/) http://www.brianlumley.com/ubb/wink.gif
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March 24th, 2000, 02:22 AM
Pybob- Actually every living cell (therefore I would suppose undead cells also) contains oxygen so the effect of a vaccuum on a body... in this case a vampire ... would cause the body to EXPLODE. Not like a stick of dynamite explosion... WORSE. It would be more like a stick of dynamite attached to each cell. The total abscense of pressure causes bodies to expand... and this occurs at a cellular level the same way it occurs to the skin layer. Therefore in outer space I am pretty sure a vampire would expand so that no two vampires cells would be in contact... Just my opinion!
This truly is a strange topic
March 24th, 2000, 11:31 PM
I couldn't agree more Mike C, I'm sat here giggling at the truely bizarre nature of this topic...
And I stand corrcted on what I said, I was just working from an old theoretical biology text... you wouldn't believe how strange that is (only 4 kingdoms of life!?!)
April 14th, 2000, 07:59 AM
If the Wamphyri can survive frozen in the icelands, then they can evidently slow their metabolisms sufficiently that they need no oxygen for extended periods.
If the vampire could effortlessly maintain the altered form, then perhaps the cold of space would help the metabolism to slow sufficiently to survive, but I imagine that maintaining the required form would take energy on the part of the leech.
The Wamphyri would - given sufficient fuel - probably be able to withstand the toxic effects of anaerobic respiration for longer than the average mortal.
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April 16th, 2000, 12:54 AM
But there's still the problem of the extremes of pressure difference.
April 16th, 2000, 02:22 PM
The leech craves the life
"the bloood is the life" My asumption was always that the leech didn't really crave the blood but the lifeforce it carried within it.
April 17th, 2000, 02:47 AM
I think the leech has an endless supply of androstene (sp)... yeah! that stuff Mark McGwire takes to hit homeruns.
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